being a semi-retired pelican appreciator i can verify that yes indeed,
there are many interesting pelicans in media labs. However...the
international through traffic in some zoos is not as much as you might
expect and many run through mainly local involvement.
infact, i would say, with a few exceptions, most media labs exist off
the energy of the locals and enhance the offer with invited guests...on
this level there are _many_ people itching to come to NZ...
also Douglas - if you dont go to zoos how do you know if pelicans are interesting?
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 08:59 +1300, Douglas Bagnall wrote:
but, based on what i've seen in my travels,
some of the most interesting
creative stuff seems to be happening in and around /hack/lab spaces: the
kind of spaces which put together, in one place, open-source enthusiasts
who want to spread the word, and artists who are interested in working
with new technology and want access to equipment, workshop space, or
just a social space to hang out with other likeminded people.
The reason for this, Damian, is that you are a media-lab/hack-space
tourist. You find interesting stuff there because that is where you go,
so you go there again and again. You are like an appreciator of
pelicans who goes from zoo to zoo and says "all the most interesting
pelicans I see are in zoos". The argument is convenient and circular.
In actual fact, digital artists might not be "like-minded people". They
might not be lacking in social spaces, or "equipment", or any of that,
and they might not live anywhere near the centre of a main centre. And
those who do fit this kind of collaborative tech-head profile are
already doing it. Which is good (although, as far as I can see the only
difference between one of these hackery spaces and other people's
studios and practice rooms is the presence of a website and a written
set of rules).
so, in my mind, the best, cheapest single thing
they could do is
part-fund the formation of a hack-space or several hack-spaces,
strategically located in major cities. in Wellington, a small space
(Happy-sized) somewhere in the not-yet-gentrified bits around upper cuba
or tory st, or in newtown.
This sounds dreadful. It also sounds like Toi Pōneke.
The thing is Damian, this isn't a new idea. It comes round and round,
and every so often someone acts on it. A coordinator is appointed and
they immediately buy three top end Macs with just the right software for
something, and they hire a space and there's a kitchen and foosball and
a locked room for the cool macs which can be hired out for really cheap
even though nobody knows what to do with them and the kitchen becomes
grimy and somebody loses something (maybe stolen, maybe not) and nobody
comes in any more and it seems like a terrible waste until a group start
to use it for lan parties and they have fun for the final 6 months of
the lease. Or perhaps more money is pumped in and the mistake of the
old Macs is corrected by buying the latest model. Or perhaps it morphs
into an incubator, or an internet cafe, or a therapeutic workshop, or a
key sector institution that it would be somehow embarrassing to stop
Perhaps the key difference between here and Madrid and Vienna is not
that we are few and poor, but that our country is just not an attractive
hub for centripetally motivated people. Those cities draw moths like
yourself, whereas our artistic immigrants are like slaters or
cockroaches scuttering to the dampest hidden places. Without the churn
of visitors, your super-hack-space will be left with the same old people
that somebody went to school with, seeming like just another badly
implemented badly fitting cultural import. It would be better for CNZ
to let us self organise, *then* give us the money.
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