Hi all,
I'm doing a bit of a review on some of the sites we're mirroring on
ftp.clear.net.nz, in an attempt to keep the disk utilisation a little
more under control.
We're currently pulling down a bunch of things; the main disk-consumers
are:
ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD (4M without packages or 2.x)
ftp.openbsd.org:/pub/OpenBSD (1M, 2.5 only)
ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux (5M without "software" tree)
ftp.redhat.com:/pub/redhat (5M without srpms, 5.2 + 6.0 only)
ftp.debian.org:/debian (6M without potato)
Now, it seems to me that there's little point in mirroring content if
there are other people in NZ already doing it -- for example, if there
was a good debian mirror somewhere else, I'd be happy to replace the
CLEAR Net debian mirror with a text file which says "see ftp.xxxx.yy.nz
for this mirror" if it meant I could pull something else down that
wasn't already in the country (like NetBSD, which was there but which
I removed to make space for everything else).
So, here's the question: does anybody know of other locations in NZ
where the archives above are already mirrored?
Joe
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Subject: [ISOCNZ-COUNCIL] Telecom Update
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:23:19 +1200
From: "Sue Leader" <netwoman(a)one2one.co.nz>
Reply-To: Exe.Dir(a)isocnz.org.nz
To: isocnz-l(a)isocnz.org.nz
CC: isocnz-members(a)isocnz.org.nz
Greetings all
You may remember that ISOCNZ was waiting until we met with Telecom
representatives and got some core questions answered before taking a
position on the Internet Access Pricing Changes/0867 number
introduction.
After a series of delays Telecom managed to get the right group of
people
together at the same time and place, and the ISOCNZ delegation met with
those representatives on last Friday (June 25).
The meeting was productive, with answers being provided to almost all
our
questions. In addition, ISOCNZ was able to negotiate some favorable
outcomes for our stakeholders.
So why the delay in letting you know? Telecom undertook to supplement
our
notes of the meeting with written responses by close of day yesterday
(Tuesday 29). As soon as these arrive we will make them available on the
web-site.
In the meantime we have decided to publish the written questions which
ISOCNZ provided to Telecom on June 13 - fifteen days before the meeting.
These questions were compiled from questions supplied by our
stakeholders, primarily via the isocnz-l list.
As the timeframe dragged out, the Council took the opportunity to refine
the
questions into subject groupings which would allow the topics to be more
easily covered during the space of the meeting. Telecom had these
questions several days in advance, as well as the original list of 33
questions. Both sets of questions are linked from:
http://www.isocnz.org.nz/issues.html
On a happier note - the Media Releases page has been updated recently
and
includes information on the appointment of two NZers to International
Internet
Governance Bodies - Peter Dengate Thrush and Andy Linton. The media
didn't really pick up on this story and I felt we needed to celebrate
their
achievements - to read all about it - please reload the Media Releases
page
at:
http://www.isocnz.org.nz/pressrels.html
Cheers
Sue
Sue Leader - Executive Director
ISOCNZ (Internet Society of New Zealand Inc)
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Posted-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: DEW #3 - 48 hours
To: those-concerned-with-operational-integrity(a)ISI.EDU
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:38:15 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi,
I appologize for duplicates.
Its almost time for the next quarterly walk of the inverse
tree of the DNS. For the last few quarters, I've been walking the
in-addr tree looking for numbers of delegations, accurate delegations,
and types and styles of error conditions.
So... this is a heads up that you will be seeing zone transfers
being generated by a couple of the collecter machines here. For those of
you who utilize BINDs access controls, I'd appreciate your inclusion of
the collector machines in allowed transfers. The expectation
is that they will be the following IP addresses:
128.9.160.57 and 198.32.4.13
Past data is at: www.isi.edu/div7/people/bmanning.home/in-addr-audit.html
The run is scheduled to start 01 July 1999 @ 00:01 UTC.
If there are any questions or concerns, I'd be happy to talk
about them. Past data has been presented at IEPG, Apricot and RIPE
meetings. The expectation is that future data will be presented in
the same and similar forums.
-- bill manning
310.822.1511
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I have thrown something up to get the ball rolling. It's pretty cheap
and nasty, be warned :)
http://www.patho.gen.nz/nznog/contact.html
You will need a username and password to get in, since the idea is that
this address book has personal contact details rather than generic
helpdesky ones where possible.
Mail me with a username and password, and I'll set you up. Additionally,
you might like to send me contact details (name, e-mail, phone, fax where
available/appropriate) for the following categories:
o Usenet
o Abuse (annoying)
o Abuse (panic)
o Routing anomolies
o BGP filter updates
o Network peering
o Cache peering
o Cables cut
o Building access
o Policy
There's also a "Notes" category for other misc info (the CLEAR entry
has "Route policy in RADB" there).
Joe
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I've received an approach from a Malaysian ISP, wishing
to contact their NZ equivalents, as the clocks turnover to '00.
I would guess there there will be others, who are interested
in how NZ is faring, and potentially use the 6, or 8, or
17 hours of leeway they have productively in the event
of some unforeseen problem.
I would rather not have the entire worlds ISP support staff
phone their counterparts in NZ to enquire "How it going?".
Given the fact many of them will simply want to silently
observe that there is no problem, what is the best way
to go about this?
Let them subscribe to the nog?
Form a special NOG for the brown-out period 11/99-1/00?
Suggest that no-one in NZ really cares about the rest
of the world, and they can all.......
Appoint Peter Mott as a Y2K spokesman? and direct all
enquiries to him?
Any one any other suggestions?
Many Thanks.
Rgds Roger De Salis
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Roger wrote,
> Given the fact many of them will simply want to silently
> observe that there is no problem, what is the best way
> to go about this?
The Y2K Commisiion wish to do just this on their web site, we are working
with them on ways to minimise the probability of down time (basically
geograpic dispersal and minimum dependence on proprietary code).
Give me a call and I'll put you in touch....
Robert Gray
Clearview Communications, Auckland New Zealand
bobg(a)clearview.co.nz http://www.clearview.co.nz/
Phone DDI +64 9 529 5704, Fax +64 9 529 5702, Mob +64 25 971 860
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>Just an idea -- any comments?
Good scheme
Robert Gray
Clearview Communications, Auckland New Zealand
bobg(a)clearview.co.nz http://www.clearview.co.nz/
Phone DDI +64 9 529 5704, Fax +64 9 529 5702, Mob +64 25 971 860
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Naylor [mailto:richard.naylor@citylink.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 1999 18:08
To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Cc: jabley(a)clear.co.nz
Subject: Re: Contact Numbers [was: Y2K stuff]
At 04:44 pm 22/06/99 +1200, Joe Abley wrote:
>On a more tedious, on-topic note, is anybody else interested in keeping
>a central repository of contact e-mail addresses and phone numbers for
>NZ net ops? Not for consumption by the general public, but maybe stuck
>on a web page somewhere behind a crude password?
>
Yes - I'm keen. My black book is falling to pieces.....
>I was thinking in terms of contacts for categories, like:
>
> + usenet feed-tweaking
> + abuse notification
> + routing strangeness
> + network peering
> + proxy peering
+ cables cut
+ bills not paid
+ stuffed routers
>The idea is to provide a list of second-tier and third-tier support
>to our counterparts in other providers, so that we don't end up having
>to do battle with the helpdesk IVR at 3am when something nasty just
>happened.
>
>Just an idea -- any comments?
>
You mean you don't like me phoning you cos yours is the only cell phone
number in Clear I have ? Maybe thats why all the others don't give me
numbers ........
Actually I have a page for the members of WIX and will do something similar
for APE.
rich
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Hi all,
CLEAR publishes its routing policy in the RADB.
Just out of interest, do any of our peers pull our policy from there
in order to build filter lists? If so, how often do you do it?
I ask because it seems that some of our advertisements are not being
accepted by some peers; naturally the games players have been the
first ones to notice and point this out :)
If anybody would like a pre-built, up-to-date filter list for cisco
routers (for advertisements from AS4768 routers only), please drop me a
line.
Joe
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CityLink would like to announce the availability of a peering facility on
Level 48 of the Sky Tower in Auckland. This will be a neutral peering
facility using an ethernet switch supported with a local unix box and UPS.
The unix box will run mrtg for traffic statistics and NOCMON for port
monitoring. Statistics will be available to peering users on their ports
only on application.
Users will be able to establish bilateral peering arrangements or in
conjunction with users, we will establish a unilateral peering facility.
The unix box will also offer a route server and reflector along with an AS
number for users who may not currently have an AS of their own. CityLink
will also operate an independent (pre-CIDR) address space for users to use
for unilateral peering.
The facility will be managed from Wellington using CityLink's established
24x7 support facility. Local hands on support will be sub-contracted to a
local supplier.
Access to the facility is available for a connection fee of $750.00 + GST
and a monthly support fee of $62.50. Customer ports will be restricted to
a limited number of MAC addresses to ensure some degree of security between
customers.
CityLink is a Network Operator based in Wellington with a large IP network
based on a 40km fiber cable network. It operates the neutral Wellington
Internet Exchange with approximately 12 connected Internet Service
Providers. Its network has approximately 20 switches installed in a
distributed switching fabric.
Q1 - Why are you doing this ?
CityLink has experience in neutral switching and IX operations in high
bandwidth applications. CityLink operates a MAC based metropolitan area
network with multiple ISPs
Q2. Will there be a link between the Wellington IX and APE ?
The ISP community provides this connectivity at the present time. It is not
expected that CityLink will provide this facility.
Q3. Does this mean that CityLink will be operating a network in Auckland ?
No. We see that we can add value and experience in operating a neutral
exchange in Auckland.
Q4 - Aren't you scared of heights ?
48 Floors ? YES. Power poles ? No.
Q5 - What will be there ?
A 6 foot rack with nice gear in it. At this stage the rack has a UPS and
Unix box and a small switch. The switch will grow as traffic and port
requirements demand.
Q6 - Where will spares be held ?
Spare and hardware service will be provided locally in Auckland.
Q7 - I want to join - How do I get signed up or find out more ?
Send email to info(a)citylink.co.nz or phone 04-917-0200
Q8 - When will the service be live ?
We expect to be installed and operating by 20 June 1999.
Q9 - What sort of switch will be in APE ?
At this stage we have a Cisco ethernet switch in the cabinet. We are
talking with other suppliers about what options are available. Our
experience is that we often grow a switch capacity as demand rises. We have
a number of switches in Wellington and swap them out as the port count
requires. (we have yet to see a bandwidth limitation)
Q10 - Why are you charging ?
We are charging on a simple cost recovery basis. We feel that if the
peering point is free then it is abused. If a charge is levied then users
will appreciate that management is applied to the exchange. CityLink is not
a huge organisation and needs to recover some of its costs. The costs
mentioned above should not be a barrier to likely user organisations.
[ends]
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