Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm
this arvo?
$ date
Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz
server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276
1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset
-0.001089 sec
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz
server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613
1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset
619315199.998172 sec
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I'm in the tower right now, and the APE cabinet was just ringing.
Was someone trying to contact it? (Via phone)?
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Wow, I just read this really interesting article in Infotech this
morning.
It was written by this internet expert, and he was saying that a bunch
of 'techies' came really close to breaking the New Zealand internet.
That it might have impacted my ability to dial up.
He also suggests that the government might like to step in and take
over.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1112116a1983,FF.html
It must be true if it got printed.
Dean (I thought sarcastic irony was better than a venomous attack on
this occasion)
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Apologies for the mostly-off-topic post.
In message <20020225230605.GA17795(a)tapu.f00f.org>, Chris Wedgwood writes:
>On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 11:57:39AM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
> JCM was devised as a method of limiting broadband service uptake
>
>Until I see proof of this, I'm going to call BULLSHIT.
FWIW, I'm inclined to agree (that it's bullshit). The JCM (and similar
systems which have been in use in New Zealand for a long time) are
attempts to limit demand to a level where the supply can be made at a
similar cost to what is being paid. So that increases in bandwidth
required to supply the demand can be met out of revenue.
>I wish people in New Zealand would stop pretending bandwidth is cheap
>and/or cost almost zero and expecting vast amounts of resource for
>little cost. It doesn't work that way. Anywhere.
>From my point of view bandwidth is very cheap now. Of course this is
coming from first connecting to the Internet when we were being charged
around $600/MB ($0.60 per kilobyte) for (international) traffic. Now I'm
paying, what, about $0.20 per megabyte (less in some instances) for
international traffic.
That's about 1/3000th of the cost a bit of 10 years ago (about 13 years
ago now IIRC).
Sure there's lots of things one could do if someone were handing out
bandwidth for free. There's lots of things one could do if someone were
handing out money for free too. That doesn't meant it's a good idea to
get fixated on them, and blame the people not giving things away for
free for "holding you back" or whatever.
The Paradise.Net charging model (for want of a better term) where plans
include some amount of traffic "for free" (ie, in the base cost) may
have some of the effects that people are hoping for in their "fixed
price, all you can eat" plans, but without the horrendous downside
effects of "all you can eat" plans (on everyone else, the provider,
etc).
This is particularly true where the plan includes more traffic than most
people can sensibly use in the period (eg, the Paradise.Net plans that
have 10GB of traffic included in them). (A friend of mine with a 10GB
traffic plan has been trying _very_ hard to use it all up in a month,
without succeeding.)
My plan at home (a mere 1GB of traffic included) is plenty fine for me;
I've never ever hit the limit (in the 18 months I've had the connection),
and only rarely think about not doing something "because of the traffic
charges". (About the only thing I actively avoid doing is downloading
ISO images of (free) software releases.)
If somehow I could get more than 128kbps upstream I'd be really happy.
(2Mbps downstream is very nice; but 512kbps downstream was fine.
512kbps upstream would be really nice. Anyone lurking from TSNZ take
note: I'll pay real money (up to about 50% more for the connection)
for a better upstream on my cable connection. I don't even care if
it's not backed by international bandwidth; I want this extra upstream
bandwidth for local (NZ-wide) use.)
Ewen
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Just a note that we will be doing some work on our link to APE at 3pm this
afternoon. Hopefully it should only take a minutes but be might see the
odd error.
We have also been adjusting our wellington setup this afternoon if people
notice any changes to our WIX advertising. This should all be stable soon.
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>>> "Chris Wedgwood" <cw(a)f00f.org> 02/28/02 10:05 >>>
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 05:24:02PM +1300, Jean-Francois Pirus wrote:
>> FYI: I had to disable ECN on our mail servers to be able to send
>> mail to telecom.co.nz. So that's still an ongoing problem.
>Their problem, not yours.
Unless you think that you should be conservative in what you send (see
RFC3168).
- Donald Neal
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I knew keeping quiet about Rogers 10GigE vendor spam was going to pay
off eventually.
This is not so much vendor spam as a Public Service announcement. =)
The first Juniper Networks Reference book has just been released.
It was written by some of our best engineers (read as: HEAPS better than
me), and it aims to be as the title says "The Complete Reference".
One of the Authors is Jeff Doyle. You might remember him from such
small books as "Routing TCP/IP Volume 1 and 2".
So either keep a lookout at your local bookstore, make an order, or here
is the amazon URL.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072194812/qid=1014934141/sr=8-1/ref…
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A gathering of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is planned for
11 and 12 July 2002, to be part of the UniForum NZ conference being held
at the Auckland Airport Centra Hotel (in Kirkbride Rd, Mangere).
A number of people and organisations have offered to provide content,
but other offers are still welcome. If you'd like to present a paper, a
tutorial, a practical demonstration, or indeed something else on a topic
likely to interest NZNOG subscribers, we'd like to hear from you.
Among subjects in which people have expressed interest are: IPv6
implementation, Multicasting; Quality of Service; Voice over IP and
Wireless and community networking, but other suggestions are welcome.
Material to be presented may be either leading-edge or more
introductory.
If you or your company is able to offer a presentation, or if you'd
like to add a request for
a topic to be discussed, please email nznog2002(a)deanpemberton.com . The
sooner we hear from you, the more likely we can do something about it.
- Donald Neal
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FYI: I had to disable ECN on our mail servers to be able to send mail
to telecom.co.nz. So that's still an ongoing problem.
jfp.
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On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 02:18:36PM +1300, Peter Mott said:
> I take it you have a quick means of restoring the current image if the box
> displays sillyness on reload?
I've got a goodly number of identical switches in Wellington all running
the same code release, so I've no reason to believe the 3524's in the
Sky tower will display altitude sickness. I've also discovered that if
you delete all the HTML off the flash, you can fit two images on (the
old and the new), which does give us a way back if they display Auckland
specific silliness.
In addition, we'll have a tech on standby - he needs to be on site to
install gigabit between the switches (part of the reason for the upgrade
is to install an IOS release that supports copper GBICs). So if I do
royally putz something up (fairly unlikely, given that I've done about
60 of these upgrades in the last two months), we'll have somebody there
to type stuff into the boot loader and reinstantiate the old image.
Cheers
Si
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