Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm
this arvo?
$ date
Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz
server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276
1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset
-0.001089 sec
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz
server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613
1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset
619315199.998172 sec
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I think many of you enjoyed Paul Vixie's visit this year.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a speaker next year?
I have polled several of the "nog" informally, but I'd like
to get a wider view.
R
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Hi All.
Just got this back from InternetNZ re the .geek.nz submission.
Interesting to note two things.
1) My request to have .geek.nz processed at the same time as .bank.nz was
rejected. They can only apparently handle one at a time.
2) There will be no more 2ld's until they finish a full review.
Got in just in time but there will be no .celt.nz =(
Dean
----- Forwarded message from Sue Leader <exe.dir(a)internetnz.net.nz> -----
To: Dean Pemberton <dean(a)deanpemberton.com>
From: Sue Leader <exe.dir(a)internetnz.net.nz>
Subject: Re: .geek.nz
Cc: dnc(a)dnc.org.nz
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/)
Hi Dean
The .nz Oversight Ctte (NZOC) reported on their planned work schedule at
today's Council Meeting. NZOC noted that the review of both the new 2LD
creation process and the surrounding discussions about the nature of the
space itself, was high on their priority list after the SRS is implemented.
On that basis, and in line with the sequential process adopted for
.maori.nz/.bank.nz, the Council passed the following resolution:
MOVED: Streatfield/Bourne 'THAT
(a) a moratorium start today on all new 2LD applications (no more will
be received)
because of the upcoming review of 2nd level domains by NZOC
(b) that .bank.nz continues
(c) that .geek.nz proceeds sequentially after .bank.nz is concluded
CARRIED
ABSTENTION De Salis/Davidson
Given that the review of the 2LD process will involve public consultation,
and given the nature of your community of interest, the consultation would
benefit from the input of your knowledge, experience and expertise.
We will keep you posted on the progress on .bank.nz. I am unable to give
you a precise time frame, as the Request For Discussion (RFD) for .bank.nz
opened on August 26 and will not conclude before October 25, nor later than
Nov 24. At that stage the straw poll will be arranged, which runs for a two
week period, finishing around 9 December. Until then, we will not know
whether that application moves into the next stage of public submissions, a
period which runs for another 30-60 days. Note, that should .bank.nz fail
to meet the threshold in the straw poll, that would mean that the .geek.nz
proposal would move into the RFD stage in mid-December, a timing which may
not give the proposal as much attention as might otherwise be the case. The
timing is negotiable with the proposer.
cheers
Sue
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Heath [SMTP:sheath@paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:19
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: Re: bank.nz maori.nz geek.nz
>
> Other than InternetNZ sitting on this application for 3.5 months
> InternetNZ has
> done nothing wrong. In late May I presented a paper to council about
> reviewing
> the 2LD name space and it was assigned to the .nz oversight committee to
> look
> at where it has rotted ever since not even appearing on its agenda.
>
Actually, this *is* on the agenda of the .nz Oversight Committeen (NZOC).
At present the NZOC is focused closely on the SRS rollout and urgent policy
development associated with that. Details are available at www.dnc.org.nz.
Partly because of the need for urgency, but also because Rose Percivall and
others widely consulted over the SRS implementation over a number of months,
there is minimal public input at this stage but once the SRS implementation
is rolling forward, and subject to approval from the Council of InternetNZ,
a review will be initiated for all current policies, including the process
for allocation or extension of the SLD space, and public participation will
be a critical part of that review.
Frank March
Chair, .nz Oversight Committee
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Hi, NZNOGers.
[ Apologies to those of you who have received this note in other fora. ]
I've crafted several enhancements to my DNS monitoring suite. I am now
monitoring the gTLD name servers, and you can see the data here:
http://www.cymru.com/DNS/gtlddns.html (graphs)
http://www.cymru.com/DNS/gtlddnstext.html (text)
I have enhanced the root and gTLD name server monitoring. Now instead
of only graphing hourly query response, I am also graphing hourly ICMP
8 0 ("ping") response. This may provide some additional insight during
periods of high latency; it may instead be specious as all get out. ;)
You will find it here:
http://www.cymru.com/DNS/index.html
On a related note...
Are you lame? Being lame means I will pick on you during my next
presentation. Avoid this shame! :) Take a look at the lame server
report below. It is updated weekly. My thanks to those who donate to
the data.
http://www.cymru.com/DNS/lame.html
Comments, feedback, donated data, and peering sessions are always
welcome!
Thanks,
Rob.
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Actually... I want to cash in on this. Gimme 'americascup.nz' now!
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Andy wrote:
> At 7:16 AM +1200 8/27/02, DPF wrote:
> >On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:53:21 -0500, Andy Gardner
> ><andy(a)navigator.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>How about this:
> >>
> >>Once the SRS is running and has passed tests (tests conceived by someone
> >>other than a baboon), .nz's SLD is opened up to allcomers?
> >
> >That exact proposition (plus other possible changes) is planned to
> >indeed be the subject of consultation and review next year. Andy
> >Linton amongst others has been pushing for this for some time and it
> >was going to be reviewed and considered this year but as you
> >suggested, we decided it was best to wait until the SRS is in place.
> >
> >It is pretty rare for a ccTLD to abolish a 2LD structure
>
> Who said anything about abolishing co/net/org etc?
>
> Open up the SLD to allcomers, but leave the existing registrations in
> place. People will be free to continue their .co.nz, can register new names
> in .co.nz if they want, but also have the choice of *.nz
Yep that would be the way to do it. I suspect in reality though this would
effectively kill co.nz etc as the vast majority of registrants would want to go
from say telecom.co.nz to telecom.nz.
DPF
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In message <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208271600320.2972-100000(a)wark.lionra.net.nz>, Andy Li
nton writes:
>On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Ewen McNeill wrote:
>> And then someone could build a directory service over the top of that
>> offering a one-to-many mapping.
>
>And as Chris pointed out that's (almost) already been done by Google (or
>whoever you deem to be search engine of the moment).
Google is the best-substitute-for-a-directory-service which we have at
the moment. It's not exactly ideal.
Your point that we could be focusing on a new directory service is
definitely a good one. Although I personally think if we're going to
take that approach to a logical conclusion we should completely devalue
domain names (making them provider assigned arbitrary strings) to take
the rest of the argument out of them. Half-measures seem like a recipie
for additional problems.
>Imagine this debate being held over 0800 numbers:
Except that the other prefixes that you talk about are purely arbitrary
in the 0800-etc case, and the second level domain suffixes being
suggested here are at least somewhat meaningful divisons.
The equivilent to suggesting 801, 802, et al (which incidentally do
exist in another form, viz 0800, 0508, in NZ, and others in the US)
would be someone suggesting co1.nz, co2.nz, co3.nz etc.
I don't think anyone's seriously suggested co1.nz yet.
>Also nice to note the categories before and after BANKS: Balloons-Hot Air
>and Banners. There's some food for thought in the Yellow Pages categories.
:-)
>And the justification would be the same as that of the banks. And of
>course 'celts.nz' can use many of the arguments put forward by 'maori.nz'.
And celts.nz has my support. When are you submitting the proposal?
I'll pledge $10 towards the $1000 fee for celts.nz as well (I've already
pledged $10 for geeks.nz for Dean).
Ewen
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The value of the namespace arises from both being simple and
logical. It is very hard to see how a 2LD can be justified
to support the wishes of the 5 real banks, and ~20 wannabe banks,
or broking houses, or insurance houses, who like to think they
are bank like.
25 entries is not likely to stress the .co.nz namespace (which is
surely the only reason for considering another 2LD.) In the mind
of the applicant, why would banks be (at internet level) any more or
less special than any other commercial entity. Sure this would lead
to .legal.nz, .treaty.nz, and a variety of other groups who for
whatever (spurious?) reason somehow think they are "special".
I propose to make a submission against .bank.
R
Ewen McNeiil wrote:-
> (b) I don't have a major problem with any of the suggestions
> I've seen on either nznog or isocnz-members, providing it's
> intended there be a moderately logical hierachy underneath it.
asjl wrote:-
> Given that the vast majority of registrants are in 'co.nz'
> anyway - the last number I saw was around 95%, I really find
> it hard to see what value the structure has anyway.
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