Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm
this arvo?
$ date
Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz
server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276
1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset
-0.001089 sec
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz
server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613
1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset
619315199.998172 sec
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Notice of the sale of Domainz is being sent by post to ISPs, but a
quick e-mail here may also prove effective in reaching any interested
purchasers.
The advert relating to the sale of Domainz is at
http://www.internetnz.net.nz/sale-of-domainz-nbr-ad.pdf, as per the
announcement below. All inquiries are best directed to Tim Russell of
Deloitte Corporate Finance at the details below.
DPF
On Fri, 30 May 2003 13:35:44 +1200, Peter Macaulay
<exedir(a)internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
>Further to our earlier announcements, the public aspect of the sale of
>Domainz is under way. An advertisement is in today's (Friday 29 May)
>National Business Review. A copy will be posted on the web site at 1830
>tonight.
>Feel free to pass on this information to any parties that may have a
>genuine interest. The contact is
>Tim Russell
>+64 9 303 0857
>timrussell(a)deloitte.co.nz
>
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I think all the members of this WG are on NZNOG. I am sure they would agree
with me in saying that we welcome any and all feedback.
Summary:
Read background paper that we wrote at:
http://dnc.org.nz/content/2ld_background.pdf
And complete online form at:
http://dnc.org.nz/2ldFeedback.php
Or email policies(a)dnc.org.nz with your comments/ideas/thinking.
Steven Heath
Second Level Domains Policy Review
Published at 01 Oct 2003 14:13
InternetNZ, through the Office of the Domain Name Commissioner, is
reviewing the existing Second Level Domains policy
(http://dnc.org.nz/content/second_level_domains.pdf).
A Working Group was established by the .nz Oversight Committee
earlier this year to conduct the review. The Working Group is
seeking public input to assist in developing a revised draft policy,
which will also be subject to public consultation.
The current Second Level Domains policy deals with three critical
areas: the structure of the existing Second Level Domains, the
moderation of Second Level Domains, and the process for establishing
new Second Level Domains.
Debate so far in the Working Group has identified two major areas for
reform: Whether the process for creating new second level
domains should be modified and whether that modification should
simplify the process. The existing process lacks adequate criteria
for decisions about the addition of new Second Level domains and has
generated concern in the past. Whether there should be direct
public registrations allowed at the second level in the .nz space.
This has a number of implications which need to be considered around
dealing with the existing second level domains after any change;
dealing with conflicts between existing third level registrants if
the second level is opened and others.
In addition to these two key areas, the Working Group is seeking
feedback on the existing Second Level Domains and their ongoing
relevance, and would also like to receive comments and suggestions
about any other aspect of the existing policy.
To assist with this consultation a background paper has been
produced. This outlines the current policy, expands on the issues
for consideration and poses some more specific questions for
consideration. It is available at:
http://dnc.org.nz/content/2ld_background.pdf
Public comment, on the specific issues identified above and in the
accompanying background paper - or any other issues relating to the
Second Level Domains policy - is sought by Monday 10 November 2003.
To assist with the feedback process, you can use an online feedback
form. The questions in the form are those presented in the
background paper. The form is available at:
http://dnc.org.nz/2ldFeedback.php
InternetNZ also maintains a public email list for discussion of the
review. To subscribe, send a blank email to
nz-review-subscribe(a)internetnz.net.nz.
Please email comments to policies(a)dnc.org.nz, fax them to +64 4 495
2115, or post them to the Office of the Domain Name Commissioner, PO
Box 11-881, Wellington.
NB: Notice of all comments will be published on this page, as they
are received. Comments will be published on the site in PDF format.
Confidential comments can be made on application; people wishing to
make a confidential comment should forward a request with reasons to
the submission address above.
----- End forwarded message -----
Steven Heath
.nz news & views
www.nznews.org.nz
Nznogers may want to note that as of today (1st October) the
Crimes Amendment Act 2003 (previously the Crimes Amendment
Bill no 6) came into force.
This Act, amending the 1961 Crimes Act, may potentially
affect many internet users and providers (esp the
unauthorised access provisions). It has been commonly known
as the anti-hacking bill.
InternetNZ in July prepared a brief paper on aspects of the
Act which may affect internet users and providers. The
paper is at
http://www.internetnz.net.nz/public/committee-reports/ctte-legal-and-regula…
or http://tinyurl.com/g9vj
The revised Crimes Act is not yet online but I have the key
clauses in electronic format if anyone would like a copy.
DPF
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This IS an interesting, if somewhat prolonged, discussion and, needless to
say perhaps, I agree with Donald that spam filtering is an operational issue
of relevance to this list.
But it is also a policy issue of interest to the NZ Government, which is
what my job is about. To say that I can change my job as suggested by Joe
(clearly I can and maybe in the fullnss of time I will, but that IS
irrelevant) somewhat misses the point of why I am on this list... it is
because of my *present* job that I think it important.
There are many issues of possible government policy relevance that emerge on
this list in different ways, spam is just one. Which irony has been pointed
out to those who dictate the operational policy for this Ministry.
Unfortunately, they do not subscribe to NZNOG as far as I can determine.
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Information Technology Policy Group Mobile: (+64) 21 042 9205
Ministry of Economic Development, Wellington, New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Neal [mailto:Donald.Neal@telecom.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 10:11
To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: RE: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message was blocked]
> From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:simon@igrin.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 09:21
> To: Joe Abley; Russell Fulton
> Cc: nznog
> Subject: Re: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message
> was blocked]
>
>> >He also has the option of finding a new job, if the policies of his
> >employer don't suit him.
>
> C'mon people (not just Joe) this thread is now getting *way*
> off topic,
> (I'm surprised Donald hasn't stepped in yet) although
> admitedly my original
> message was somewhat off topic as well.
This is a list for network operators, which doesn't just mean telcos and
ISP's. My view is that discussion of spam filtering is appropriate. Granted,
by the time we get onto what employees should be allowed to do we may indeed
have wandered a bit.
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> From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:simon@igrin.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 29 September 2003 09:21
> To: Joe Abley; Russell Fulton
> Cc: nznog
> Subject: Re: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message
> was blocked]
>
>
> At 13:48 28/09/2003 -0400, Joe Abley wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, Sep 27, 2003, at 14:59 Canada/Eastern, Russell
> Fulton wrote:
> >
> >>However, some employers also have policies that forbid access to
> >>alternate mail sources (hotmail & ISP accounts) for
> legitimate reasons.
> >>This leaves some one like Frank having to follow work
> related lists that
> >>run foul of the corporate filter in their own time from home.
> >
> >He also has the option of finding a new job, if the policies of his
> >employer don't suit him.
>
> C'mon people (not just Joe) this thread is now getting *way*
> off topic,
> (I'm surprised Donald hasn't stepped in yet) although
> admitedly my original
> message was somewhat off topic as well.
This is a list for network operators, which doesn't just mean telcos and ISP's. My view is that discussion of spam filtering is appropriate. Granted, by the time we get onto what employees should be allowed to do we may indeed have wandered a bit.
Donald Neal | "And if you think virus
Technical Specialist | writers are scary, you
Operations Engineering | have clearly never met a
Integration & Services Divn. | tort lawyer."
Alcatel NZ Ltd | - The Economist 28/8/03
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Apologies for not getting onto this yesterday as I was involved in a meeting
offsite all day.
This Ministry uses MailMarshall. I am not responsible for the way it is set
up and I have complained frequently about the type of email that gets
blocked by it. In the past, it has blocked, inter alia, the monthly
messages outlining this list's AUP and other matters from the redoubtable
Donald Neal. Given Donald's care with language and his email courtesy the
mind fairly boggles at the thought.
On average Mailmarshal as configured here seems to catch 50% of genuine spam
'aimed' at me (but is getting better) and about 25% of the blocking messages
are false positives (despite recent problems with this list, I think this
might also be improving incrementally). Nevertheless, personally, I would
much rather have the spam. The record with virus filtering is, however,
exemplary.
Although I seldom post to this list (and when I do it is arguably off-topic
on occasions), and most of the traffic is of marginal direct interest to me,
I do find this list useful as a gauge of the temperature and general health
of the Net in NZ which is immensely valuable for my job. However, if the
problem persists, and complaints persist, I will remove myself from the
list. I would regard this as being a very unfortunate outcome.
And, by the way, and anticipating a message later in the thread from Juha, I
dont ever recall his swearing at me (about me perhaps....)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:simon@igrin.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 23:17
To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: [nznog] Argghhh.... [Fwd: Your e-mail message was blocked]
Sigh...
Could the owner of this charming little content filter please see if it
has an option to NOT reply to messages that aren't specifically addressed
to the recipient. (EG messages comming in through mailing lists etc) Or
perhaps consider subscribing via another address that isn't filtered.
It gets a little tiring to have every second message I send to this list
get a bounce from an overactive content filter because it might have "bad
words" in it or in this case might be a "hoax and/or chain letter".....
(Huh ??? What in my message looks like a hoax ?)
Regards,
Simon
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Subject: Your e-mail message was blocked
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To: simon(a)igrin.co.nz
Cc: Frank.March(a)med.govt.nz
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Fellow networkers,
Team Cymru is happy to announce the availability of a public whois
server dedicated to mapping IP numbers to ASNs, located at
whois.cymru.com. You can find the link to this tool at:
http://www.cymru.com/BGP/whois.html
This link has been added to our main BGP data page available at:
http://www.cymru.com/BGP/index.html
We have also extended the functionality of this daemon to support BULK
IP submissions for those who wish to further optimize their queries with
netcat.
Following is a quick overview of how to use it:
$ whois -h whois.cymru.com <IP>
Where <IP> is replaced by the IP you'd like to map, like so:
$ whois -h whois.cymru.com 4.2.2.1
ASN | IP | Name
3356 | 4.2.2.1 | LEVEL3 Level 3 Communications
You can also include port information, and/or timestamps in your
queries. Be sure to include quotes around your queries, or the daemon
will interpret your request as multiple lines:
$ whois -h whois.cymru.com "4.2.2.1 -0600 GMT"
ASN | IP | Info | Name
3356 | 4.2.2.1 | -0600 GMT | LEVEL3 Level 3
Communications
For instructions on how to submit BULK queries via netcat, simply issue
the following command:
$ whois -h whois.cymru.com help
We hope you find this tool useful. Stay tuned for more features!
If you have any comments or suggestions as to how we might improve this
service, feel free to let us know!
Thanks,
Rob, for Team Cymru.
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Rob Thomas
http://www.cymru.com
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