Completely off topic but I cant really think of anywhere better to post
Does anyone know of an ISP/Telco that will rent a modem pool ?
I am looking at providing our sales reps with dial in access, and
thought there may be someone on the list that's used this kind of
French Maid Foods Limited
Tel: +64 (0)4 568 2687
Fax: +64 (0)4 568 2345
Mob: +64 (0)21 739 240
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it was suggested to me that this warning might also be NZNOG-worthy.
His message to me triggered my spammer-o-meter, so I did some digging:
From: Nic Bellamy <nic(a)bellamy.co.nz>
Subject: [nzlug] Warning: spammer seeking services
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:56:31 +1300
Just in case anyone here gets an enquiry from this chap regarding setup
of mail servers:
Ralph Juliano/Raphael Giuliani <r.juliano(a)verizon.net>
Suite 515, 2700 Market Street (aka. Crestview Apartments)
He's a spammer. He also seems to lack a sense of humour, as he didn't
appear to find my sending him a picture of his apartment funny in the
slightest, nor the advice to get a real job.
Nic Bellamy <nic(a)bellamy.co.nz>
Bellamy Consulting -- Software & Security -- http://www.bellamy.co.nz/
Phone: +64-6-377-4957 Fax: +64-6-377-0505 Mobile: +64-21-251-8954
From: Robert Gray [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 7:30 a.m.
Keith Davidson wrote:
> InternetNZ has already agreed to implement DNSSEC. Waiting for the
> resolution of the issue of "walking the zone" appears prudent.
The debate about "walking the zone" has centered on whether this is
actually an issue, luminaries such as Joe Abley and Bill Manning have
suggested that it is not. Others, well DPF, has suggested that it is.
The debate is much wider than this. It amounts to whether or not a
technical standard circumvents a wider policy issue relating to access to
the zone file and WHOIS data. It is an international debate - although as
far as .nz is concerned it is an issue of local Internet community concern.
There is a tension between those concerned with the technical issues
relating to the DNSSEC standard and those concerned with public policy
issues - the problem plainly arises from a failure on the part of the
standards setters to take the wider policy issues into account...
Unfortunate, but certainly understandable.
Whether .geek.nz should have a difference policy set from the other
unmoderated .nz 2LDs was debated at the time it was established... The
outcome has been well canvassed on this list and I will not repeat it.
The policy relating to release of the .nz zone file has been recently
reviewed and all received views taken into account. The zone file will be
released at the discretion of the NZOC and (ultimately) InternetNZ Council
provided that there is a clear public interest and the party concerned is
prepared to sign up to strict usage criteria.
Timing (not the principle) of DNSSEC implementation is also under constant
All of these matters have been debated in public, there are no hidden
agendas, the only concerns have been the best stewardship of .nz in the
interests of all Internet users and, especially, those reliant on the .nz DN
According to Robert Gray:
<quote>That the society wishes to ignore the views, however well informed,
of a "handful of NZNOGers" speaks volumes about the need for industry
membership of InternetNZ. Why pay money to be ignored when you can be
ignored for free.</quote>
To which the only response I can make is that democracy does have its
downside for those who find themselves in the minority.
Chair, .nz Oversight committee
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