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Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm
this arvo?
$ date
Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz
server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276
1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset
-0.001089 sec
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz
server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613
1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset
619315199.998172 sec
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gray [mailto:bob@brockhurst.co.nz]
Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 7:30 a.m.
Keith Davidson wrote:
> InternetNZ has already agreed to implement DNSSEC. Waiting for the
> resolution of the issue of "walking the zone" appears prudent.
The debate about "walking the zone" has centered on whether this is
actually an issue, luminaries such as Joe Abley and Bill Manning have
suggested that it is not. Others, well DPF, has suggested that it is.
-----------------------------------
The debate is much wider than this. It amounts to whether or not a
technical standard circumvents a wider policy issue relating to access to
the zone file and WHOIS data. It is an international debate - although as
far as .nz is concerned it is an issue of local Internet community concern.
There is a tension between those concerned with the technical issues
relating to the DNSSEC standard and those concerned with public policy
issues - the problem plainly arises from a failure on the part of the
standards setters to take the wider policy issues into account...
Unfortunate, but certainly understandable.
Whether .geek.nz should have a difference policy set from the other
unmoderated .nz 2LDs was debated at the time it was established... The
outcome has been well canvassed on this list and I will not repeat it.
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prepared to sign up to strict usage criteria.
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review.
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agendas, the only concerns have been the best stewardship of .nz in the
interests of all Internet users and, especially, those reliant on the .nz DN
space
According to Robert Gray:
<quote>That the society wishes to ignore the views, however well informed,
of a "handful of NZNOGers" speaks volumes about the need for industry
membership of InternetNZ. Why pay money to be ignored when you can be
ignored for free.</quote>
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downside for those who find themselves in the minority.
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Hi all,
Anyone know why ns1 ns2 ns3 and ns5.dns.net.nz aren't giving out useful
information?
That's 4 of 7 primary servers for all of .nz and seems to be affecting
all of the second level domains.
22:35:04 tim@stella ~$ for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do host -t ns dnc.net.nz
ns$i.dns.net.nz;echo; done
dnc.net.nz NS record currently not present at ns1.dns.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS record currently not present at ns2.dns.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS record currently not present at ns3.dns.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns2.actrix.co.nz
dnc.net.nz NS internetnz.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns1.actrix.co.nz
dnc.net.nz NS record currently not present at ns5.dns.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns2.actrix.co.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns1.actrix.co.nz
dnc.net.nz NS internetnz.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS internetnz.net.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns1.actrix.co.nz
dnc.net.nz NS ns2.actrix.co.nz
22:37:40 tim@stella ~$
Cheers,
Tim
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Guys, another prefix list update.
Prefix list is attached or can be pulled from
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Cheers
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InternetNZ, through the Office of the Domain Name Commissioner, is reviewing
the Whois Server Policy. All aspects of the policy are subject to this
review.
For more information, including a consultation paper, feedback form, and
details about the review working group, please see:
http://dnc.org.nz/whois-review
Feedback is due by 5pm on Monday 1 November 2004, and comments will be
published on the DNC website as they are received.
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NOTE: operational content here is marginal; replies in email may be best
In message <20040929014242.GD5188@stateless>, Nicholas Lee writes:
>How about restricting access to whois information via a
>registration-required web interface, rate limit access dependant on
>GeoIP location, and make it difficult for scripts.
The New Zealand whois interface is already rate limited (as David
mentioned).
Taking away the traditional whois interface again (Domainz didn't
provide it for a long time) and replacing it with a web interface will
reduce the ability for legitimate users to use the traditional tools to
look up information (which may be integrated into their workflow).
But it won't make it any more difficult for someone who is determined to
extract the information from the whois database; HTTP libraries are just
as available as TCP/IP connection libraries these days.
If you put in a registration step, then again you make it more difficult
for someone who is legitimately trying to look up information without
really making it more difficult for a scripted solution. If you add a
"type in the text from this distorted image" step (eg, a captcha), then
there is a proven workaround for such things -- you offer free pr0n to
anyone that decodes one of those images, then feed the result back into
the system. It's unlikely there'll ever be a short supply of people
wanting free pr0n.
If you "randomize" the output of the whois information, then you make
the service more difficult for legitmate users to use, but again nothing
that's particularly hard for a scraping script to work around (if the
output is programatically generated then it's almost always
programatically parsable, particularly if you only want a subset of the
information and aren't too concerned about false parsing).
Besides which only one scammer (or enterprising supplier of scammers)
needs to extract this information; it can be sold or reused for quite a
while after it's extracted. The "useful lifetime" of the information is
probably in the order of 6-12 months, and if you get a few "good" scams
through in that time, the effort to extract it easily pays off.
Since most of the scams that have been effective have been paper-based,
and since the main operational need is for an email contact or a phone
number contact, possibly the most productive thing to do is review
whether the physical address information is made available (by default).
But ultimately I think that so long as there's money to be made (and
gullible people available to be scammed), such things will continue to
happen almost irrespective of how difficult one tries to make it to
obtain the information -- at least up to the point where legitimate
users have long since given up trying to use the service.
And it's not always a good idea to substantially interfere with
legitimate use just because of a small amount of illegitimate use.
Ewen
Hey guys, sorry to post off topic, just wanted to get a general idea on whats
going on here.
I bought a laptop 2months ago from Noel Lemmings, top of the range of the NEC
model, shortly after getting it I had issues with software freezing etc and
then the sound just stopped functioning. I tried installing other OSs on the
laptop thinking it was just windows being its self, however the problem
occurred on both FreeBSD and Debian linux.
I sent the laptop in for repair (Theyve now had it close on 2 weeks) where they
said they couldnt find a fault (typical) so I told them to keep it for a few
more days. They then did find a fault and said it looked to be hardware related
as per what I told them. They sent it in for repair where some other doofis
tried to reinstall windows and then 2 days later said it was hardware related
and it would take 5 days for a new MB to be sent from Malaysia. Well this
morning I was called and asked if it would be alright if they could reinstall
my laptop and did I want anything backed up; obviously no notes have been left
with the laptop saying that its been reinstalled 11 times in the last 2 weeks
and nothing is on the laptop.
I call up this afternoon and ask when I can pickup the machine, they tell me
that Malaysia dont have stock of my MB and Ill have to wait another 2 weeks
before I might get my laptop back. When I asked if this was normal, they said
yes, no laptop vendors keep stock in the country, only for desktops.
So my questions are
1./ Should they be replacing the laptop with a new one
2./ Do hardware vendors never keep stock of parts in NZ (specially for a new
range of equipment)
3./ How long should a laptop be in for repairs if its a P1 (Priority 1) job?
Please reply directly.
Thanks
Barry
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