The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king,
president or formal membership. At present it consists of the
subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join.
Meetings
Our next annual conference is to be hosted by the WAND group in Hamilton
on February 2nd to 4th, 2005. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more
information, including the Call For Presentations. Offers to present are
due in by 22nd October, and all presenters
should have had their acceptance confirmed by 31st October.
Also see http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near
Auckland or Wellington.
Operators' Contact List
See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details
for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other
network operators, not by most customers.
Internet Exchanges
See http://www.ape.net.nz/ for details of the Auckland Peering
Exchange and those connected there. See http://www.wix.net.nz/ for the
Wellington Internet Exchange.
About This Mailing List
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to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe
addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them.
You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive
daily "digests". See the bottom of the page
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which you receive postings.
The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of
Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink
and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is
responsible for its content.
NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy
The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of
technical information and the discussion of implementation issues
that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers.
In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of
relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the
following guidelines.
1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical
issues.
2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is
appropriate.
3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate.
4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged.
5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and
lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable.
6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable.
7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are
discouraged.
8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as
text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To
present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For
documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file
formats is discouraged.
9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the
offending list user, and should not result in complaints being
sent to the list.
10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings
from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such
warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being
unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block
postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to
be immediately announced to the list.
Mailing List Archives
A full archive is available at
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/
Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the
web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request,
though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the
Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office.
One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search
with
site:list.waikato.ac.nz .
Subscribing to the List
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Donald Neal
NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins
Donald Neal |Palmersdale: Are you in charge here?
Technical Specialist |The Doctor: No, but I'm full of
Operations Engineering | ideas.
Integration & Services Division +-----------------------
Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager
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Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm
this arvo?
$ date
Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz
server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276
1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset
-0.001089 sec
$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz
server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613
1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset
619315199.998172 sec
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Has anyone thought about recording/streaming the sessions from NZNOG
this year?
Could also be good for whoever's looking after that to contact Doug Kay
at IT Conversations ( http://www.itconversations.com/ ) for syndication...
We have now reached the legal limit on the number of people in the room
for Thursday. This means that registrations are _really_ closed. There
will be no registrations on the day unless we have cancellations or
no-shows. We can still take extra people for dinner.
Richard Nelson
WAND Network Research Group.
Re: Multicast in NZ FAQ (Lennon - Orcon)
I had a really interesting guy call me up on the helpdesk about a year ago
and he spent like an hour on the phone explaining the benefits of
mulitcasting. He was trying to convince all the schools to do it in case
there was an outbreak of SARS meaning all the schools would be shut and that
it would be a good way to push out assignments to students...intersting
stuff.
Wouldn't viruses be spread quicker via multicast?
My 2c
Trakman.
Hi There,
I have a possible major webcast in AKL at the Showgrounds in mid March. I'm
going to need 2 carriers with around 2.5-3 mbps each. I just need to get
back to APE, so traffic upstream isn't too great.
Current plans are to use Wired Country and IP Star via ICONZ. Any one (incl
Telecom and TCL) with something better and do-able before mid March, please
contact me off list.
Its 3 days live and allowing for set up etc, is a total of maybe 5 days.
Thanks - Rich
The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king,
president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this
mailing list, which anyone is free to join.
Conference
Our next conference starts tomorrow. See http://www.nznog.org/ for more
information about the conference, including how to get there. You may be
out of luck if you haven't already registered. If you are going, see
http://www.nznog.org/curry_about.php for dinners on Wednesday and
Friday.
Other Meetings
See http://auckland.thursdaynightcurry.com/ or
http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near
Auckland or Wellington.
Operators' Contact List
See http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/ for operational contact details
for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other
network operators, not by most customers.
Internet Exchanges
See http://nzix.net/ for details of the Auckland, Palmerston North and
Wellington exchanges, and some information on others under construction.
About This Mailing List
This list has around 750 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the
list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses
which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them.
You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive
daily "digests". See the bottom of the page
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in
which you receive postings.
The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of
Waikato, and is administered by employees of Alcatel NZ Ltd, Citylink
and Telecom. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is
responsible for its content.
NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy
The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of
technical information and the discussion of implementation issues
that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers.
In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of
relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the
following guidelines.
1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical
issues.
2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is
appropriate.
3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate.
4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged.
5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and
lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable.
6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable.
7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are
discouraged.
8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as
text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To
present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For
documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file
formats is discouraged.
9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the
offending list user, and should not result in complaints being
sent to the list.
10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings
from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such
warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being
unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block
postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to
be immediately announced to the list.
Mailing List Archives
A full archive is available at
http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/
Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the
web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request,
though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the
Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office.
One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search
with
site:list.waikato.ac.nz .
Subscribing to the List
See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe.
Donald Neal
NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins
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One of our user domains has just been heavily hit by *huge* quantities of
Non-Delivery Receipts addressed to random_string@domain_name. At it's peak
we were seeing around 50,000 NDR's coming in per hr. The worst has passed
(<fingers crossed>), but this does raise a couple of issues with the
current Internet mail infrastructure. A good discussion of the attack and
surrounding issues can be found here at
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/spf/discuss/17041. In a nutshell we
need Sender Policy Framework (http://spf.pobox.com/) - or something
similar ASAP. There is nothing that could stop this happening to us again
tomorrow.
I don't think I've ever felt so powerless. RBL lists proved useless in the
line of defense, as these messages were coming from legitimate sources.
We were able to temporarily remove a few IP's here and there where the
remote MTA were going overkill throwing these NDR's at us. It would seem
that the original spambots that delivered the original message sent it
just about everywhere. An interesting stat is that we received NDR's for
atleast 352,423 unique recipients (<352,423 unique strings>@domain)!!!
We only had a number of things at our disposal to do to limit the damage:
Stop generating any 'unknown user' NDR responses ourselves (ignoring RFC876).
Split the affected domain away from the rest of our incoming mail stream
and then to start removing obvious NDR's from the isolated queues.
Remove more NDR's from the queue.
<repeat last step again>
<and again>...
<etc...>
Has anyone seen something similar? Did you manage to locate a better
solution? I can't say I've enjoyed the last couple of days one bit!
Spencer.
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Systems Engineer
Compass Communications
http://www.compass.net.nz
What Radius Software are the majority of people out there using?
Small Scale.. And large scale.. with SQL Backend?
Anyone know anything about freeradius?
Regards
Craig - ConceptNET
