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Hi There,
I have been discussing the utilisation of Xen in a production
environment on a couple of other lists (nzlug, debian-isp etc), but
wondering if anyone from this list is using it in new zealand for
serving of network services? Please let me know if this is OT.
Would like to hear your experiences if so.
Simon
Hi There,
Im wondering if anyone has used or is using a good solution to remote
boot (from complete power down) servers and equiptment?
This i have done in the past by having the bios on the server set to
reboot after power fail and that takes care of the rest along with
good load UPS's and backup power. But what if you acually had to shut
down a server for some reason out-there (backup power fails)?
Regards,
Simon
Hmmmm. That reminds me of some sort of saying... Something about a little knowledge being a dangerous thing...
Aha - Here we go:
"A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again. Alexander Pope (1688-1744) - An Essay on Criticism."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pope
And on balance I'd agree - letting someone think they're safer if they take the most lightweight precautions probably isn't a good idea.
Cheers - N
Neil Gardner
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>>> "Erin Salmon - Unleash Computers Ltd" <erin(a)unleash.co.nz> 30/11/2005 4:34 p.m. >>>
It is incredibly easy to underestimate the volumes of stupid people out
there. You'll notice that most govt department website have things like:
Name:
Eg. John Smith
On their contact forms... They don't do that for no reason.
A bit of education (even if it is pathetically light-weight) can't be a bad
thing.
Just my $0.02.
Erin Salmon
Managing Director
Unleash Computers Ltd
Unleash Networks Ltd
Mobile: 021 877 913
Landline: 03 365 1273
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Heath [mailto:sheath@paradise.net.nz]
Sent: 30 November 2005 3:39 p.m.
To: Juha Saarinen
Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ Online Security Day
Quoting Juha Saarinen <juha(a)saarinen.org>:
> Matthew Poole wrote:
> > Is apparently today. One of my co-workers discovered this when he
> logged
> > into the WestpacTrust online banking site.
> > Anyone else heard of this? It was obviously very well publicised,
> seeing
> > as a whole company of geeks hadn't heard of it.
>
> It's a silly stunt that is best ignored. I don't think geeks are
> interested in downloading Hector the Virus Vect... err, Protector, in
> order to celebrate Online Security Day.
The Net Nanny, err, Net Safe people did a press release about it 2 days ago.
Lots of lead time and all that. Seems they proposed the idea about six
months
ago but no one cared...
http://www.netsafe.org.nz/isgnews/text_generation_release.aspx
I think I will just stick to Bonzi Buddy.
Steven Heath
.nz news & views
+64 21 706 067
www.nznews.org.nz
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barbarism
to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization."
Georges Clemenceau
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Is apparently today. One of my co-workers discovered this when he logged
into the WestpacTrust online banking site.
Anyone else heard of this? It was obviously very well publicised, seeing
as a whole company of geeks hadn't heard of it.
--
Matthew Poole
"Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."
Adderlink.
We use two (Ak/Wn) attached to our 16 port KVM's to provide IP access to
the consoles.
The box has one network port and runs a commercial version of VNC, which
behaves better than free VNC.
Attach it to a UPS, and you can have access to your consoles with power
on or off.
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Murphy [mailto:barry@unix.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2005 3:18 p.m.
To: Daniel Lawson; Joe Abley; NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Remote server booting
Hmmm, so basically an IP-KVM ? Does it have a network port or does it
share the systems; do you assign an IP to it and it gives a web based
console?
I'm wondering if i can put this into a system, attach it to a KVM on
site and control up to 8 pc's; though it doesnt appear to have a video
output.
Seems pretty interesting, I may get one to play with.
Regards
Barry
> We no longer carry this range of product, and I beleive that the
> manufacturers have discontinued some of the range There website has
> gone but you can try to call them on 0800smitch
Black Box used to have a local website and produce a Catalog, not sure
if they still do in NZ. They carry a range of remote power units, have
a browse - I'm sure there is something suitable there:
http://www.blackbox.com/Catalog/Category.aspx?cid=183,1324,1327
--
Regan
There are boards called Eric from Peppercon :
http://www.peppercon.com/remoteboards.html
I use a few of them and they are just as good as Lights Out cards from
HP/Compaq
Geraint Jones
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nznog@daork.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2005 11:58 p.m.
To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Remote server booting
> Im wondering if anyone has used or is using a good solution to remote
> boot (from complete power down) servers and equiptment?
>
> This i have done in the past by having the bios on the server set to
> reboot after power fail and that takes care of the rest along with
> good load UPS's and backup power. But what if you acually had to shut
> down a server for some reason out-there (backup power fails)?
Most vendors have some kind of module available as standard, or as an
option.
IBM: "Remote Supervisor Adapter"
HP: "Lights-Out"
Dell: "DRAC" (Dell Remote Access Controller)
Obviously, blade chassis, etc. have these built in..
There are also cards that go home made PCs, I believe.
APC and others also make remote power switches, which are a power
distribution board that let you switch ports on and off individually.
This
may solve part of your problem for cheaper than lightsout cards in all
your servers.
I believe the interface is some kind of network thing (ie. web, SNMP or
telnet), or maybe RS-232.
--
Nathan Ward
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Could anyone living in New Zealand who has offered to present and not
received a reply please contact me directly.
- Donald Neal
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