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Oops. Internet banking still available via www.anz.com/nz at least.
After receiving a number of requests from people viewing the Matinee
Idle studio cams, I have opened up access to the 384k and 2M streams to
This means that all NZ consumers can watch the high rate streams if
they want to, regardless of whether their ISP peers or not.
Non-peering ISPs may see a big increase in international bandwidth
usage between 12:30 pm and 5 pm daily on weekdays until 20 Jan 2006.
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We will be providing live streams of the ASB Classic and Heineken Open
tennis from Jan 2 - Jan 14
To ensure all New Zealanders get the best possible service we strongly
recommend peering with the R2/Citylink anycast cluster at 184.108.40.206
via WIX, APE and/or PNIX.
As it is the holidays we're not exctly sure how many people will be
watching coverage online, so this is just a heads up.
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The studio cams for the Matinee Idle radio show are now in operation
with a jpg slide:
I have noted on the web cam page that some customers may not be able to
get the high bandwidth streams due to their ISP not peering.
These consumers will get a message suggesting that they use one of the
lower rate streams or contact their ISP.
Time for a beer now, my work is done....
Pretty much every Cisco DSL router supports IPv6. We just need an ISP
to start selling the IPv6 transit ...
From: Richard Hector [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 2:46 p.m.
Subject: Re: [nznog] ipv6
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 14:35 +1300, Matt Brown wrote:
> With the introduction of UBS I'm hoping that it's going to become a
> lot more common for ISPs to be able to offer IPv4/IPv6 circuits, even
> if it is only on ad Ad-Hoc basis to the 'geeks' to start with.
To offer it on UBS, wouldn't your DSL router have to support IPv6? Do
any of them?
I suppose you could use either a plain modem, or one of those ones that
bridges PPPoA to PPPoE, but I've never tried setting one up.
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South Asian Network Operators Group (SANOG) VII
16-24 January 2006, Mumbai, India
Hosted by ISPAI.
SANOG VII Program Announcement
SANOG VII program and agenda are now published on
http://www.sanog.org/sanog7/. SANOG VII is being held by ISP Association
of India (ISPAI) in Mumbai, India from 16-24 January 2006.
Daniel Karrenberg, Chief Scientist, RIPE NCC and Paul Wilson, DG,APNIC
will address the plenary session of SANOG VII. There will be 3
workshops, 10 tutorials, 3 BoFs and over 16 presentations during the
event. APNIC will hold a special Open Policy Meeting Showcase at SANOG
VII, and for the first time at SANOG, we'll have a Peering Panel and Debate.
Registration Discounts available for ISPAI, APNIC, APIA members.
Detailed information is available at http:/www.sanog.org/sanog7/
Program and Agenda:
Three hands-on workshops: 16-20 January 2006
* ISP Routing and BGP Multihoming Workshop
* IPv6 Essentials, Applications and Routing Workshop
* Multicast Routing and Applications Workshop
Ten Tutorials: 21-22 January 2006
* BGP and High Availability Routing Tutorial, Prasad Babu
* DNS / DNSSec Deployment Tutorial, Champika Wijayatunga
* IXP Construction and BGP Multihoming, Philip Smith, Gaurab
* L2VPN - Changing and Consolidating Networks - Paresh Shah,
* Layer2 Attacks and Mitigation techniques, Yusuf Bhaiji
* DDoS prevention in Service Provider Networks, Wireless
* The Basics of Multicast - Marshall Eubanks,
* QoS and Multicast on MPLS Networks , Rajesh Shinde
* QoS on Low Bandwidth & High Delay Links, Prakash Shende
Birds-of-a-Feather (Special Evening Sessions) : 21-23 January 2006
* Managed Services
* Anti-SPAM Tools and Techniques
* Internet Society (ISOC) BoF
APNIC Special Sessions
* APNIC Helpdesk sessions throughout SANOG VII
* APNIC Open Policy Meeting Showcase on 24th January 2006
Two Days Conference Program : 23-24 January 2006
* Alternative architectures for Broadcast Video Distribution
- Srinath Beldona, Cisco
* RA-MPLS services - Kapil Kumar, Reliance
* Network Infrastructure for IPTV - Saisree Subramanian, Wipro
* Efficient Resource Broker Architecture to Provide Guaranteed
QoS - Praveen Kumar, Anna University
* Graceful Restart of Routing Protocols - Prasad Babu, Juniper
* Backbone Architectures for NLD/ILD: Design; Optmization &
Services - Chandan Mendiratta (Cisco)
* Network Infrastructure Security in Cellular Data Networks:
An Initial Investigation - Vishal Sharma (IIT-Bombay)
* Traffic Engineering and Network Planning Tools for MPLS
Networks - Dr. Girish P. Saraph (IIT-Bombay)
* pmacct; a new player in the network management arena -
Paolo Lucente (CNR-Italy)
* Flow measurements from the packet-switched NREN PIONIER:
technology and experience - Wiktor Procyk (Poznan S&N Center)
* Interest Based Group Management Mechanisms for E-learning Design
using the Peer to Peer Technologies - Surya (AIT)
* Internet Routing Table Update - Philip Smith (Cisco)
* INOC - DBA Update - Gaurab Raj Upadhaya ( PCH)
* Data Network Management for Telecom Operators in ASIA -
Sufi Faruq (AKTEL)
Peering Penel and Debate
* Nigel Titley, Peering Manager, FLAG Telecom
* Sylvie Laperriere, Director- Peering, Teleglobe
* Sharad Shangi, Net4India
* Gaurab Raj Upadhaya, PCH, (moderator)
Local Fellowships are still available.
We expect a huge turn out from the region at this SANOG meeting owing to
the popularity at previous meets. We also welcome participants from West
Asia, with our established collaboration with the RIPE NCC. With more
involvement of APNIC in the content of overall program, We hope you
would be able to make it to this meeting.
The meeting is open to everyone from the operational community, and thus
anyone who wants to find out more about Internet operations in South
Asia is welcome.
You can register for SANOG by sending in the form available at
www.sanog.org/sanog7 or using the online registration system.
Registrations from inside India can be paid by DD
Looking forward to seeing you there.
Not being from a service provider my view is somewhat simplistic.
Telecom offers a layer 2 service called UBS, which uses L2TP between their
RAN and the ISP. Over this PPP runs. So I don't see any reason why an ISP
couldn't offer IPv6 over UBS.
> Pretty much every Cisco DSL router supports IPv6. We just need an ISP
> to start selling the IPv6 transit ...
The last I knew (which was admittedly many years ago) Telecom's wholesale
DSL was a layer-3 service, with frames being routed through a twisty maze of
RFC1918-numbered routers before they arrived at the user's ISP. If that was
still the case, then surely Telecom would need to route v6 frames between
the customer and the ISP for the customer to receive native v6 service?
If there has been a subsequent layer-2 wholesale DSL service offered, along
the lines that is done elsewhere, is there not still a requirement for
Telecom to switch v6 frames from PPPoA into L2TP, or whatever framing is
used to present a user's traffic to an ISP?
Telecom told me that are playing with it, at best, and had no plans to
offer it commercially. Didn't bother trying Xtra. I tried to speak to
TelstraClear about it, but couldn't really find the right people to
understand what I was asking.
From: Matt Brown [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 2:35 p.m.
To: Philip D'Ath
Cc: Simon Lyall; nznog
Subject: Re: [nznog] ipv6
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 14:26 +1300, Philip D'Ath wrote:
> I've tried to buy a dual stack IPv4/IPv6 circuit, but no one I've
> contacted is prepared to sell me one.
Are you able to share who you tried to purchase one off?
There seem to be three NZ providers advertising v6 prefixes at the
With the introduction of UBS I'm hoping that it's going to become a lot
more common for ISPs to be able to offer IPv4/IPv6 circuits, even if it
is only on ad Ad-Hoc basis to the 'geeks' to start with.
Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz