FYI - TVNZ today started streaming Question Time (aka playtime) live from
Parliament today. The links are available hidden in the TVNZ website under
news -> politics -> 3rd column -> hidden word "live".
The video is also being archived in case you missed something.......
And its all multi-bit rate - including a stunning 2mbps stream. (must get
Bringing this back on topic..... it needs a bit better publicity than the
current web page, and Network Operators Help Desks may need to explain why
a 2mbps stream looks so much better than 56kbps as well as the usual
questions like - "why don't I get sound" (coz you haven't turned on the
Congratulations to the folks at TVNZ - a great job. Just look at that 2mbps
In message <200502071721.05162.mark(a)mcs.vuw.ac.nz>, Mark Davies writes:
>So from the key signing party we should be in the position that for anyone we
>have verified we are happy that the pgp key we have the fingerprint for is
>indeed for the person we met but the one thing that the process hasn't done
>is confirm that all the email addresses listed in the key are under the
>control of that person.
>To achieve this last step here is a process (lifted from the NetBSD developers
>PGP guidelines): [...]
I agree that the "keysigning" party approach generally bypasses
actually confirming the email addresses really belong to the person in
control of the key. (Which is unfortunate as the email address tends to
be one of the more trusted parts.)
The usual approach I've seen to confirm that the email address is correct
is to send the signed key to the email address listed, encrypted with
the key. And not upload the key/signature to a key server. That way
only the person in control of both the email address (used) and the key
is able to gain access to the signature, and it's not visible to anyone
else until they've done so.
The NetBSD approach seems to go further and confirm all the uids,
providing one follows the elaborate process of tracking each "challenge"
that is sent out against the particular uid it belongs to. But I'm not
sure it's always necessary if one only signs uids one has other reasons
to know are associated with the person in question. (I generally avoid
signing uids for which I don't recognise the email address, for
instance, unless it's the one to which the key is being sent.)
As it happens I've already seen half a dozen new signatures for my key
uploaded to the keyservers and not emailed to me, so those people
presumably trust the email address for other reasons.
Thanks to Richard Nelson, Jamie Curtis, Perry Lorier, Leslie and
the other folk for organising NZNOG05 and being such wonderful hosts.
Thanks To Donald Neal, Joe Abley and other organisers for setting up
Thanks to the sponsors who contributed to making it happen.
InternetNZ, Citylink, WAND, U of Waikato Juniper, 2day.com, APNIC,
De Winter and others I have missed out (but I am sure those at
WAND will add to the list).
Last but not least Thanks to all who made it there (some despite
problems with transport etc). Without the attendees, there would
have been no nznog meet.
A certain provider of a large amount of content (which I can't name
because I haven't got permission to announce this properly) is now
peering on WIX. It's ~10-15M at peak.
Make sure your prefixes are being sent to the WIX route servers, and
you're accepting at least 18.104.22.168/27 from them, and you'll get a
nice short path to it instead of via Auckland.
If you have some aversion to open peering, well, you can just pay some
other provider to get it. :)
David Zanetti <david.zanetti(a)catalyst.net.nz>
Team Leader, Systems Administration
If you want to sign keys this afternoon, and you're currently
frantically scrabbling with gpg to try and get your keys into the web
page, please continue trying until 4pm.
Just after 4pm I'm going to take a snapshot of the keyring, and that's
what we'll use for the signing shenanigans. If you haven't figured it
out by 4pm, then you can stop trying then :-)
Coming up this afternoon at the NZNOG'05 Conference we have two
programme streams starting at 13:30. You can view the details at
Stream A will have Liz Butterfield from Netsafe talking about NZ's
Cybersafety Education Initiative.
Stream B will have Joerg Micheel (NLANR) talking about 10GB Abilene
Backbone Monitoring, followed by an update on WAND's current research
We only have one r2 box here, so only one of these streams will be
streamed via r2.
If you want to put in your vote as to which one, please reply to me
(offlist is fine), before 13:00 today.
Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz
Articles as of midday:
Fog Problems Again At Airport
04/02/2005 09:29 AM
Fog is still causing problems at Wellington airport with flights being
diverted or delayed.
After a day and a half of delays due to low cloud, the airport had
only just reopened yesterday morning and airlines were trying to clear
the backlog of thousands of passengers.
Today, weather conditions at the airport are being described as
marginal and deteriorating.
Some flights are getting out and one from Nelson has managed to land.
Passengers are being advised to check with their airline.
Find this item at:
While it's fresh in everyone's minds:
> Talking to Joe there was a suggestion from someone that we put
> together a Wiki to collect this altogether as a NZ Internet History.
> Sounds good to me and we could add whole sections on 0867, IPNet and
> start writing active history on UBS etc.
I've taken Ian's information, wikified it and put it up on
Anyone can edit this - just use YourName as a login ID. (If you can't
figure out how to log in, in Bill's words, "you're excused").
If you're linking to something like Telecom, TelstraClear etc, we
probably have pages about them already. Please check before linking
Can someone from citylink that can provide me with wix and ape ip space
please contact me offlist. I had a chat to Andy some time ago about this,
however recently I can't get hold of him so wonder if he is away.