IN case this is lost amongst the flurry of flames, here's who to
contact. It does appear lost as someone did ask again about 20 mins
after Ted posted this (mind you I have only date stamps to go by).
Lots of you are still flaming about it.
May I also point out that Ted has in the past responded to this list
stating he's happy to be contacted about this.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:52:23 +1300
From: Ted Grenfell <Ted.Grenfell(a)telecom.co.nz>
To: Simon <greminn(a)gmail.com>, nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Xtra Email Administrators
So as always, you're all welcome to call me direct if you've an Xtra
query that you don't want to send via postmaster etc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2006 12:42 p.m.
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: [nznog] Xtra Email Administrators
> Would someone from the xtra email team please be able to contact me
> Much appreciated.
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On 07/12/2006, at 2:10 PM, Simon wrote:
> We are having some major issues over the past week when forwarding
> mail to xtra. Mainly:
> - delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mta.xtra.co.nz
> - connect to mta.xtra.co.nz[22.214.171.124]: server dropped connection
> without sending the initial SMTP greeting
> Has anyone seen any of these issues and knows anything about them?
We are also seeing issues since late November. I emailed
postmaster@xtra from elsewhere on 1 December, with no response so far.
Dec 7 14:19:26 skinner postfix/smtp: connect to mta.xtra.co.nz
[126.96.36.199]: server dropped connection without sending the initial
greeting (port 25)
$ telnet mta.xtra.co.nz 25
Connected to mta.xtra.co.nz.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
The above is the most common behaviour, but apparently the connection
does stay open properly from time to time (I had to send a bunch in a
row to get this):
Dec 7 14:28:34 skinner postfix/smtp: 187FFA9EF2B:
delay=27, status=bounced (host mta.xtra.co.nz[188.8.131.52] said: 550
Invalid recipient: <jkhhlkhkjh(a)xtra.co.nz> (in reply to RCPT TO
We also sometimes get "421 Service not available" before it drops the
connection, and sometimes we even get connection refused. But when
we're really lucky:
220 mta01.xtra.co.nz ESMTP server ready Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:41:34 +1300
220 mta06.xtra.co.nz ESMTP server ready Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:43:01 +1300
So, yeah, it looks like something might be up.
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Phone: +64 3 364 6806
David Zanetti wrote:
> I just don't see anything today I would bother demanding native v6
> transit for. So long as that't the case, I can live with tunnels for the
> lab/play phase of things.
How about an IPv6 wireless mesh as a reason to adopt... this is purely
hypothetical, but say in the Auckland (/ Wellington / where ever) CBD there
was an IPv6 wireless mesh, peered locally on the IPv6 peering exchange.
New sources of local content may begin to appear such as bands providing
live streams via the mesh of their gigs at the local bars / pubs / clubs
etc. Current non-internet content providers such as radio stations might
decide to provide their own streams. ISPs wishing to be WISPs would need to
The benefits from what I know of IPv6 (which I'm still doing my homework on
- so turn the flame jets down a notch) would be that all addresses on the
mesh could be internet routable, and because of the local nature of the mesh
most content would probably have local relevance rather than anything
further a field, so with good local peering (which is relatively
inexpensive) it would be completely feasible to deliver high speed local
While I know that this is hypothetical, do you think it might provide an
incentive for people to start using IPv6 to access the content? Furthermore,
people might actually have a reason to request v6 from ISPs and ISPs wishing
to provide services to mesh users would have a reason to go v6 ($$$)...
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Last I heard (about 2 years ago) it was to be hosted between Snap Internet and University of Canterbury. We have been eager to peer since before a chix was ruminated, and remain so.
Unleash would be happy to put forth a small amount of rackspace for the purpose if others want to get some informal peering going. We also have tall buildings at our disposal for those out there who are wirelessly inclined.
My motivation is to eliminate costly backhaul to other main centres and create a marketplace, if you will, for bandwidth down here. Christchurch could use some life breathed into its Internet.
Expressions of interest?
From: "Nathan Ward" <nznog(a)daork.net>
Sent: 6/12/06 12:24 a.m.
Subject: Re: [nznog] CHIX
The following exchanges are under construction:
* Christchurch Internet Exchange
* Southland Internet Exchange
The "Who uses .." list shows nothing.
Also, your sig is misspelt.
On 6/12/2006, at 12:19 AM, Russell Tester wrote:
> Does anyone know if CHIX is alive, was it ever alive or are there any
> plans to revive it in the future?
> Russell Tester
> Severworks Ltd
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