Initially those transit providers and ISPs that do offer IPv6 transit
will be able to charge for this service as it will be a premium value
add. However I can't see this business model being able to last for
more than 6 years (through to 2012), and possibly only three years.
After this point in time I expect IPv6 deployment will be standard, and
will no longer be a premium service offering - it will be the standard
offering, like IPv4 is today. Once IPv4 has become exhausted and you
can't actually give a customer an IPv4 address then you definitely wont
be able to charge more for IPv6 - otherwise the customer will walk.
So do providers start implementing slowly now, and recoup some of their
investment while they can, or wait till they are forced to do the
upgrades and are not able to recoup any of their "new" investment.
Rhetorical question.
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Dear Colleague,
This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are
designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing
registry database.
These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers
(http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded
in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a
period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an
exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and
consequently a full set of routes.
Diagnostic output:
------------------------------------------------------------
---
PREVIOUS OBJECT:
route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324
descr: advertised to AS9560 by KOrdia Ltd. - AS24324
members: 118.148.0.0/15^15-29,
124.157.64.0/19^19-29,
58.84.224.0/20^20-29,
116.89.224.0/20^20-29,
202.56.32.0/20^20-29,
202.68.80.0/20^20-29,
203.144.32.0/20^20-29,
117.104.176.0/21^21-29,
202.20.0.0/21^21-29,
202.49.16.0/21^21-29,
202.49.128.0/21^21-29,
202.56.48.0/21^21-29,
202.137.240.0/21^21-29,
218.185.224.0/21^21-29,
202.27.88.0/23^23-29,
202.65.160.0/23^23-29,
202.174.190.0/23^23-29,
203.110.28.0/23^23-29,
192.173.17.0/24^24-29,
202.21.130.0/24^24-29,
202.27.83.0/24^24-29,
202.27.90.0/24^24-29,
202.36.75.0/24^24-29,
202.36.137.0/24^24-29,
202.36.154.0/24^24-29,
202.36.173.0/24^24-29,
202.37.168.0/24^24-29,
202.37.197.0/24^24-29,
202.49.158.0/24^24-29,
202.49.183.0/24^24-29,
203.171.4.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071211
source: NZRR
REPLACED BY:
route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324
descr: advertised to AS9560 by Kordia - AS24324
members: 118.148.0.0/15^15-29,
124.157.64.0/19^19-29,
58.84.224.0/20^20-29,
116.89.224.0/20^20-29,
202.56.32.0/20^20-29,
202.68.80.0/20^20-29,
203.144.32.0/20^20-29,
117.104.176.0/21^21-29,
202.20.0.0/21^21-29,
202.49.16.0/21^21-29,
202.49.128.0/21^21-29,
202.56.48.0/21^21-29,
202.137.240.0/21^21-29,
218.185.224.0/21^21-29,
202.27.88.0/23^23-29,
202.65.160.0/23^23-29,
202.174.190.0/23^23-29,
203.110.28.0/23^23-29,
116.90.132.0/24^24-29,
192.173.17.0/24^24-29,
202.21.130.0/24^24-29,
202.27.83.0/24^24-29,
202.27.90.0/24^24-29,
202.36.75.0/24^24-29,
202.36.137.0/24^24-29,
202.36.154.0/24^24-29,
202.36.173.0/24^24-29,
202.37.168.0/24^24-29,
202.37.197.0/24^24-29,
202.49.158.0/24^24-29,
202.49.183.0/24^24-29,
203.171.4.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071221
source: NZRR
------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Colleague,
This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are
designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing
registry database.
These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers
(http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded
in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a
period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an
exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and
consequently a full set of routes.
Diagnostic output:
------------------------------------------------------------
---
PREVIOUS OBJECT:
route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503
descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503
members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29,
161.29.0.0/16^16-29,
161.65.0.0/16^16-29,
166.65.0.0/16^16-29,
202.53.176.0/20^20-29,
202.191.32.0/20^20-29,
210.48.160.0/20^20-29,
116.90.128.0/21^21-29,
123.108.144.0/21^21-29,
192.173.16.0/21^21-29,
202.46.176.0/21^21-29,
202.78.240.0/21^21-29,
203.190.208.0/21^21-29,
202.37.48.0/22^22-29,
202.59.4.0/22^22-29,
202.89.4.0/22^22-29,
202.6.116.0/23^23-29,
202.124.106.0/23^23-29,
192.88.85.0/24^24-29,
192.122.171.0/24^24-29,
192.133.31.0/24^24-29,
192.195.219.0/24^24-29,
202.20.97.0/24^24-29,
202.36.33.0/24^24-29,
202.36.119.0/24^24-29,
202.36.162.0/24^24-29,
202.36.218.0/24^24-29,
202.46.190.0/24^24-29,
202.49.106.0/24^24-29,
202.50.247.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071128
source: NZRR
REPLACED BY:
route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503
descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503
members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29,
161.29.0.0/16^16-29,
161.65.0.0/16^16-29,
166.65.0.0/16^16-29,
119.15.0.0/19^19-29,
202.53.176.0/20^20-29,
202.191.32.0/20^20-29,
210.48.160.0/20^20-29,
116.90.128.0/21^21-29,
192.173.16.0/21^21-29,
202.46.176.0/21^21-29,
202.78.240.0/21^21-29,
203.190.208.0/21^21-29,
202.37.48.0/22^22-29,
202.59.4.0/22^22-29,
202.89.4.0/22^22-29,
202.6.116.0/23^23-29,
202.124.106.0/23^23-29,
192.88.85.0/24^24-29,
192.122.171.0/24^24-29,
192.133.31.0/24^24-29,
192.195.219.0/24^24-29,
202.20.97.0/24^24-29,
202.36.33.0/24^24-29,
202.36.119.0/24^24-29,
202.36.162.0/24^24-29,
202.36.218.0/24^24-29,
202.46.190.0/24^24-29,
202.49.106.0/24^24-29,
202.50.247.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071221
source: NZRR
------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Colleague,
This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are
designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing
registry database.
These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers
(http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded
in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a
period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an
exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and
consequently a full set of routes.
Diagnostic output:
------------------------------------------------------------
---
PREVIOUS OBJECT:
route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503
descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503
members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29,
161.29.0.0/16^16-29,
161.65.0.0/16^16-29,
166.65.0.0/16^16-29,
202.53.176.0/20^20-29,
202.191.32.0/20^20-29,
210.48.160.0/20^20-29,
116.90.128.0/21^21-29,
123.108.144.0/21^21-29,
192.173.16.0/21^21-29,
202.46.176.0/21^21-29,
202.78.240.0/21^21-29,
203.190.208.0/21^21-29,
202.37.48.0/22^22-29,
202.59.4.0/22^22-29,
202.89.4.0/22^22-29,
202.6.116.0/23^23-29,
202.124.106.0/23^23-29,
192.88.85.0/24^24-29,
192.122.171.0/24^24-29,
192.133.31.0/24^24-29,
192.195.219.0/24^24-29,
202.20.97.0/24^24-29,
202.36.33.0/24^24-29,
202.36.119.0/24^24-29,
202.36.162.0/24^24-29,
202.36.218.0/24^24-29,
202.46.190.0/24^24-29,
202.49.106.0/24^24-29,
202.50.247.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071128
source: NZRR
REPLACED BY:
route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503
descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503
members: 131.203.0.0/16^16-29,
161.29.0.0/16^16-29,
161.65.0.0/16^16-29,
166.65.0.0/16^16-29,
119.15.0.0/19^19-29,
202.53.176.0/20^20-29,
202.191.32.0/20^20-29,
210.48.160.0/20^20-29,
116.90.128.0/21^21-29,
192.173.16.0/21^21-29,
202.46.176.0/21^21-29,
202.78.240.0/21^21-29,
203.190.208.0/21^21-29,
202.37.48.0/22^22-29,
202.59.4.0/22^22-29,
202.89.4.0/22^22-29,
202.6.116.0/23^23-29,
202.124.106.0/23^23-29,
192.88.85.0/24^24-29,
192.122.171.0/24^24-29,
192.133.31.0/24^24-29,
192.195.219.0/24^24-29,
202.20.97.0/24^24-29,
202.36.33.0/24^24-29,
202.36.119.0/24^24-29,
202.36.162.0/24^24-29,
202.36.218.0/24^24-29,
202.46.190.0/24^24-29,
202.49.106.0/24^24-29,
202.50.247.0/24^24-29
admin-c: RPA1-NZRR
tech-c: RPA1-NZRR
notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net
notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
notify: noc-minor(a)fx.net.nz
mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071221
source: NZRR
------------------------------------------------------------
Hi all.
You no doubt will have all seen/heard about the latest viral (in the
spreading, not the harming sense) email doing the rounds.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4330204a11.html
I'm interested in what the breadth and depth of this email is, what the
average branch size was etc.
Could any of you who received the email (and if you got multiple copies
that would be cool) forward me a copy with all the cascade still intact.
I'm going to anonymise all the results, so don't worry about being
identified.
Dean
Hi folks,
I've re-done my domain stats spreadsheet / graphs to include the last
three months.
http://jedi.school.nz/nzdg.html
I know the html version is ugly, Openoffice just doesn't seem to deal
with it very well.
Interesting to note that the net increase in domains last month was
5752, taking to a total of 311,198. Biggest jump yet, and crossed the
300,000 mark since I last looked at it all a few months ago :)
Cheers,
Blair
For all of you who have the impression that Dunedin is an expensive
place to fly to...
AirNZ currently have on offer, for 48hrs, discount flights to and
from Dunedin ex Napier, Wellington, and Christchurch for $99, $89,
and $59 respectively, one way. Travel valid for period 26 Dec
through 31 Jan. Sounds good to me.
http://airnz.co.nz/airfares_offers/hotdeals/hot_deals_fares/
new_zealand_summer_sale_19dec07.htm
Oh, and did anyone remind you all to register for the conference? ;)
Cheers,
Jonny.
Heh - nope - I can't get a refund on the $300 I paid for "Getting in
Early" either =)
Those prices are almost less than I paid in petrol to get to the last
one in Palmie.
Dean
-------- Original Message --------
any way to get the refund on the USD 400 plus
i have already spent to get there from AKL? :)
--bill
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 03:07:03PM +1300, Jonny Martin wrote:
> For all of you who have the impression that Dunedin is an expensive
> place to fly to...
>
> AirNZ currently have on offer, for 48hrs, discount flights to and
> from Dunedin ex Napier, Wellington, and Christchurch for $99, $89,
> and $59 respectively, one way. Travel valid for period 26 Dec
> through 31 Jan. Sounds good to me.
>
> http://airnz.co.nz/airfares_offers/hotdeals/hot_deals_fares/
> new_zealand_summer_sale_19dec07.htm
>
> Oh, and did anyone remind you all to register for the conference? ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Jonny.
>
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