NZNOG 08 - Call for Participation and Papers
The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be
held in Dunedin, New Zealand between 23 January and 25 January 2008. Our
host is WIC.
NZNOG meetings provide opportunities for the exchange of technical
information and discussion of issues relating to the operation and
support of network services, with particular emphasis on New Zealand.
The conference is low priced and has a strong technical focus with the
aim and history of getting a strong turnout of technical personal from
New Zealand Internet orientated companies.
NZNOG 2008 will consist of one day workshop and tutorial day followed by
two days of conference presentations. There will also be opportunity for
more informal and small lightening talks. These are typically around five
minutes long and are organised closer to the actual conference.
Call for Papers opens: 25 June 2007
Deadline for speaker submissions: 6 August 2007
Responses to speaker submissions: 24 August 2007
Draft program published: 3 September 2007
Final program published: 1 November 2007
NZNOG 2008 Conference: 23 - 25 January 2008
SIG / Miniconf / Tutorials
The first day of the conference will again be a workshop and tutorial
day. It is usually run as one or more parallel 'interest group' streams
and practical or interactive workshops of interest to Network Operators.
This is a call for papers and activities for the first day of conference.
Examples of past activities workshops include 'MPLS and fixed access
networks for beginners', 'Mikrotik RouterOS Training', 'APNIC Internet
Resource Management Essentials', and a System Administrators
mini-conference which included talks on 'Using Debian packages for
system administration' and '42 hosts in 1U: Using virtual machines'.
The main conference program for 2008 will be made up of two days with a
single stream where possible. Presentations don't need to fit any particular
fixed length and can be from 30 minutes to 3 hours in length.
NZNOG conferences have traditionally spanned the entire operational spectrum,
and then some. Proposals for conference presentations are invited for
virtually any topic with a degree of relevance to the NZNOG community.
Past years' talks have included the following:
- Internet exchange operations
- Global anycast networks and the building thereof
- Peering, peering, and peering
- Network security
- 10GB ethernet operations
- Advanced networks in NZ
- Current Internet research in NZ
- Wireless networking
- QOS over carrier networks
- Content distribution networks and media streaming
- How we paid the construction guys 18 pints of beer and they
gave us a free metro fibre network in Palmy North
- Open Source VoIP Platform in Carrier Environments
If you are interested in submitting a talk please fill out the questions
at then end of this document and email them to prog08(a)nznog.org .
When considering a presentation or SIG, remember that the NZNOG audience
is mainly comprised of technical network operators and engineers with a wide
range of experience levels from beginners to multi-year experience. There is
a strong orientation to offer core skills and basic knowledge in the SIGs
and to address issues relevant to the day-to-day operations of ISPs and
network operators in the conference sessions.
The inclusion of a title, bio, topic, abstract, and slides with proposals
is not compulsory but each will help us determine the quality of your
proposal and increase the likelihood it will be accepted.
Final slides are to be provided by 21 January 2008.
Note: While the majority of speaking slots will be submitted by 6 August 2007,
a limited number of slots may be available for presentations that are
exceptionally timely, important, or of critical operational importance.
The NZNOG conference is a TECHNICAL conference so marketing and commercial
content is NOT allowed within the program. The program committee is charged
with maintaining the technical standard of NZNOG conferences, and will
therefore not accept inappropriate materials. It is expected that the
presenter be a technical person and not a sales or marketing person. The
audience is extremely technical and unforgiving, and expects that the speakers
are themselves very knowledgeable. All sessions provide time for questions,
so presenters should expect technical questions and be prepared to deliver
insightful and technically deep responses.
Funding and Support
NZNOG conferences are community run and funded events that try to keep the
cost to attendees as low as possible so generally we are unable to pay the
travel costs of speakers. There is a limited amount of funding available to
Conference presenters will not have to pay any registration fee for the day
they are presenting. Discounts for SIG and lightning talk presenters may
be available but are not automatic.
Lightning talks are short talks/presentations that last no more than 10
minutes. This is a good opportunity to get your pet topic out there or
perhaps to get some experience with presenting without having to go to a
full talk. At NZNOG 2008 it is planned that there will be at least one
hour long lightning talk session.
There are opportunities remaining for organisations to sponsor various
aspects of the NZNOG meeting.
Please contact sponsorship(a)nznog.org for more information
Talks and Papers
Please send all talk proposals (including lightning talks) to prog08(a)nznog.org
along with the requested information. Questions regarding talks can be
sent to the same address.
Sponsorship may be available for a limited number of overseas speakers
to attend the conference, please indicate if you require assistance
with travel and/or accommodation.
Author's Full Name:
Author's Email Address:
Author's short biography:
Title of Talk:
Length of talk:
Please provide details if a version of this talk has previously been given:
Will travel and accommodation assistance be required:
Bearing in mind most switches/routers output traffic stats in Bytes
and most bills go to customers in GigaBytes, which of the following
options are being used by each of us to convert between the two when
creating the bill?
A, divide by 1024 * 1024 * 1024;
B, divide by 1024 * 1024 * 1000;
C, divide by 1024 * 1000 * 1000;
D, divide by 1000 * 1000 * 1000.
Option A gives what anyone associated with computers would expect.
Whilst the later options give a larger GB figure (- that can appear on
the bill and be charged more). What is in use out there by ISPs?
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte):
"The usage of the word "gigabyte" is ambiguous, depending on the
context. When referring to RAM sizes and file sizes, it traditionally
has a binary definition, of 1024³ bytes (typically assimilated or
approximated to 1000³, for convenience). For every other use, it means
exactly 1000³ bytes. In order to address this confusion, currently all
relevant standards bodies promote the use of the term "gibibyte" for
the binary definition."
This may be of interest to some readers.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [SixXS] gblon02 PoP open for Australian and New Zealand
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:40:51 +0100
From: Jeroen Massar <jeroen(a)sixxs.net>
We have been trying to get an ISP from Australian or New Zealand on board,
unfortunately it seems that we have met little interest up to now. In case
you do know an ISP who might be interested of course don't hesitate to let
point us to them, or let the, contact us. From several people we understood
that IPv6 connectivity that is provided in the AU/NZ region is quality wise
not the best and that there is no real alternative.
We recently opened a new PoP in London, UK. The owner of which (Goscomb
Technologies) has permitted any and all endpoints to be connected to
As such, if you don't mind the latency, which will most likely be around the
300-350ms range at least, you can now request a tunnel to the gblon02 PoP
and it will be approved. See below for an example traceroute, or test it
yourself using http://www.sixxs.net/tools/traceroute/
This at least allows one to get connectivity and start using it. Spread the
word and let your friends enjoy too.
In case you don't have enough credits to request a tunnel&subnet, don't
hesitate to give a shout and we'll make that in order.
traceroute to 220.127.116.11 (18.104.22.168), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ge-0-0-0-1235.rt0.lon4.goscomb.net (22.214.171.124) 6.347 ms 8.645 ms
2 cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (126.96.36.199) 0.958 ms 0.621 ms 0.748 ms
3 ge3-4.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net (188.8.131.52) 145.981 ms 144.941 ms
4 reach.ge2-16.br01.lax04.pccwbtn.net (184.108.40.206) 147.341 ms 145.926
ms 146.323 ms
5 i-1-2.wil-core02.net.reach.com (220.127.116.11) 148.638 ms 149.345 ms
6 i-4-0.sydp-core02.net.reach.com (18.104.22.168) 308.198 ms 308.394 ms
7 unknown.net.reach.com (22.214.171.124) 304.362 ms 303.994 ms
8 126.96.36.199 (188.8.131.52) 304.016 ms 304.783 ms 304.452 ms
9 184.108.40.206 (220.127.116.11) 305.379 ms 305.236 ms 304.571 ms
10 bri-pow-ibo-zeu-1-pos-4-0.tpgi.com.au (18.104.22.168) 318.572 ms
316.667 ms 317.729 ms
11 bri-nxg-ibo-zeu-1-pos2-2.tpgi.com.au (22.214.171.124) 318.023 ms
318.791 ms 318.606 ms
12 bri-nxg-ibo-nik-1-ge-0-1.tpgi.com.au (126.96.36.199) 316.950 ms
317.960 ms 317.714 ms
13 60-241-43-12.static.tpgi.com.au (188.8.131.52) 334.618 ms 333.790 ms
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Anyone out there got a soekris 4521 (with pcmcia slots) for sale?
The 4801 model is commonly used by citylink for route servers - I have a
couple of these I would be willing to swap for a 4521 with pcmcia if anyone
is interested :)
Perfect. Thanks Jamie.
From: Jamie Baddeley [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 9:33 p.m.
To: Mark Frater
Subject: Re: [nznog] Bill Nortons "Asia Pacific Peering Ecosystems"
It doesn't look like it's in the NZNOG archive, but I dug through mine.
See attached. It looks like it's early draft but hopefully it should give
you what you need.
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:09 +1200, mark10(a)compass.net.nz wrote:
> Does anyone have a copy of Bill Nortons presentation titled "Asia
> Pacific Peering Ecosystems" from NZNOG 2005 in Hamilton?
> I had a look at http://2005.nznog.org/ but the cupboard was bare.
> NZNOG mailing list
2004 and 2005 are now up.
Just the conference sites for now - we'll get the galleries etc up as
If you find anything busted please email details to info at nznog.org
> Does anyone have a copy of Bill Norton’s presentation titled "Asia Pacific
> Peering Ecosystems" from NZNOG 2005 in Hamilton?
> I had a look at http://2005.nznog.org/ but the cupboard was bare.
> NZNOG mailing list
I'm seeing problems with doing DNS lookups against 184.108.40.206 which
I believe is still ihug's main recursive DNS server .
For at least the last week around 20% of DNS queries are not being replied
to. Testing to other ihug DNS servers is not showing any problems.
Not sure if this is a problem since I am testing from non-ihug IP space
and possibly they have put in ACLs. No luck contacting them via email
or phone .
 It might not be, they don't list one on their webpage anywhere.
 If someone is a customer of theres they could probably check
themselves, something like this will work:
while [ 1 ]
dig www.ihug.co.nz @220.127.116.11 +tries=1 | grep "msec\|timed"
 They might want to update their details at http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6
Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/
"To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
Anyone put up anything new last Saturday. Have spoken to the usual suspects and no luck.
Senior Network Engineer
Snap Internet Limited
Tel: 03 348 8747 / 0800 500638
Email: bill.walker(a)team.snap.net.nz<mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org> Web: www.snap.net.nz<http://www.snap.net.nz/>