On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
>
> How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always
> decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that
> your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit
> your AS.
I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets
via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship
between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their
peer and then to the far end etc.
With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway,
the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that
the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual
relationship.
I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run
their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder
if Google do with ipv6.google.com?).
MMC
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I think this is the Onion piece:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d5h8np
At 09:23 AM 1/05/2009, Ian Batterbee wrote:
>That was so bad I thought I was reading an article from the onion!
>
>Ruh roh. We'd better all upgrade to Internet 2.
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Is there any one in the Manukau region using a 900Mhz SRD link? Over the
last month or so we have seen a huge amount of interference on the
900Mhz spectrum that has resulted in problematic links. Although we have
not been able to isolate the reason for the interference I would be
interested in working with any other user in the area who may be having
issues.
So far we have found that the recent deployment of telecoms new system
based on wideband CDMA has increased the power flux density and as a
result it appears that this may be part of the problem.
Opposite our site is another carrier operating on 940Mhz and from a
distance of 150+m we are picking up their signal at -7db and at a power
level of around .8mv/m2 so there could be some inter modulation going on
there.
I would be keen on comparing notes with anyone else on this.
Regards
Andrew
> >So would you trust a guy in a pink Hawaiian shirt to analyse and
> >recommend the future of the internet?
Being from Hawaii no, I wouldn't... ;-) Try something like these instead.
http://www.alohashirtshop.com/docs/view_image.php?id=11361&width=608http://www.hawaiian-shirt.net/paradise_found/pf08/bamboo_embroidery_bk_pf.j…
---------- bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com wrote: --------------
From: bmanning(a)vacation.karoshi.com
pragmatically, WTF are folks going to do when you can't get
more IPv4 space from APNIC? Pick the best answer(s):
) IPv6
) NATs all the way down
) hijack space from others
) find a new line of work as a beer-bottle washer
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Ipv6 and whatever the new name for NAT-PT is. Then LISP? http://www.1-4-5.net/~dmm/lisp
scott
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At 09:23 AM 1/05/2009, Ian Batterbee wrote:
>That was so bad I thought I was reading an article from the onion!
>
>Ruh roh. We'd better all upgrade to Internet 2.
-------- gumby_lists(a)mooh.org wrote: --------
From: Yun Huang Yong <gumby_lists(a)mooh.org>
I think this is the Onion piece:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d5h8np
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That's just about the silliest thing I have seen!
"The internet has been up for 5000 days, about 13 years, and hasn't broken down once."
According to that the internet was 'started' in 1996! (See RFC 1 by Steve Crocker April 1969) I wonder what the hell I was on in 1987! Surely they wouldn't want to know about the introduction section of RFC 1254: A large number of widely dispersed Internet sites experienced simultaneous slowdown or cessation of networking services for prolonged periods...
"youtube transmits more data than the internet." Wow, I didn't know youtube was out of band... ;-)
I think the pink aloha shirt was affecting the brain of "sunrise gadget guy". That thing is worse that the old Magnum PI shirts! http://www.mokuman.com/images/magnumpi-shirt_header534.jpg
scott
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Isn't a "brown-out" what an "ohnosecond" used to be called, being the
approximate period of time between making a live config change and
discovering the device non-responsive as a result? Brown-out being more
expressive as it also describes the effect on the operator succinctly.
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article61…
"Internet users face regular "brownouts" that will freeze their
computers as capacity runs out in cyberspace, according to research to
be published later this year."
Ruh roh. We'd better all upgrade to Internet 2.
That beer Jamie made me try last night was pretty good. I forget what
it was called. Phew.
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_______________________________________________________________________
Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (180/8, 183/8)
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Hi NZNOG Community,
The information in this announcement is to enable the Internet
community to update network configurations, such as routing filters,
where required.
APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in April 2009
and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near future:
180/8
183/8
Reachability and routability testing of the new prefixes will commence
soon. The daily report will be published at the usual URL:
http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon
For more information on the resources administered by APNIC,
please see:
http://www.apnic.net/db/ranges.html
For information on the minimum allocation sizes within address
ranges administered by APNIC, please see:
http://www.apnic.net/db/min-alloc.html
Kind regards,
Elly
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