On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
> How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always
> decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that
> your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit
> your AS.
I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets
via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship
between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their
peer and then to the far end etc.
With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway,
the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that
the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual
I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run
their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder
if Google do with ipv6.google.com?).
Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks
Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia
Email: mmc(a)internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.net
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Thanks to everybody that replied. On a different note I would appreciate
the opinion of the list on :
What are the advantages and disadvantages of working in IT in NZ?
Thanks to Gary Benner for that.
At 08:41 on 1/06/2009 you wrote
>I am researching working culture in IT. What does the list dislike about
>working in New Zealand?
Ask a negative question and you'll get a negative answer - how about re-phrasing the question in a more balanced way, such as
"what are the advantages and disadvantages of working in IT in NZ? "
Hi NZNOG Community,
ISIF Grant Program Invites Applicants
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Anyone else having trouble with discount domains, their name servers aren't responding to queries at the moment.
Nameservers for www.discountdomains.co.nz:
ns2.discountdomains.co.nz returned (SERVFAIL)
ns3.discountdomains.co.nz returned (SERVFAIL)
ns1.discountdomains.co.nz returned (SERVFAIL)
This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are
designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing
These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers
(http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded
in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a
period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an
exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and
consequently a full set of routes.
descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by Flatnet - AS9483
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050113
descr: advertised to AS9439 by Flatnet Networks - AS9483
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090526
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