On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
> How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always
> decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that
> your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit
> your AS.
I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets
via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship
between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their
peer and then to the far end etc.
With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway,
the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that
the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual
I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run
their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder
if Google do with ipv6.google.com?).
Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks
Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia
Email: mmc(a)internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.net
Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366
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I've been looking at the candidates for the InternetNZ Council
elections with some concern at the lack of candidates from this
community. See http://internetnz.net.nz/about/council/2008-2009/2009-election
I know many of you are not what you see as political animals but there
is a need for a strong voice in that forum from the technical
community. I see many of the current list of candidates as coming from
a purely business background with little or no Internet history.
This community had to galvanise itself once before to ensure that
InternetNZ represented the ideals that many of us hold about how
InternetNZ should be organised and you may want to ask yourself is it
time to get involved.
My position as a Director of the Domain Name Commission precludes me
from standing. I'm happy to discuss with anyone who might be
interested and lend my support if you think it's useful
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I've got a request from TUANZ regarding who (if anyone) receives 'Education notices' for their networks.
If anyone is able to answer the following questions off list it would be appreciated:
- Does your system administrator currently receive regular notices form rights holders alleging breach of copyright?
- If so, are you able to estimate how many?
- What do you currently do with them - determine and follow up with the staff member apparently implicated, or bin them?
- If the Act results in a major increase in the number of such notices (say tenfold) and you are required to pass them through and disconnect after 3 allegations, how big an imposition and cost is this?
- Do you anticipate difficulties arising with your staff/users as a result?
Thanks in advance, nil returns are of interest.
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> When it's all gone quiet, you know they're up to something.
Shhh they'll hear you =)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of jamie baddeley
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:42 PM
> To: nznog
> Subject: [nznog] Temperature Check: How's the Internet goin' in NZ?
> nznog has been quiet recently.
> <operational content>
> </operational content>
> Networks running OK?