NZNOG August 2009

nznog@list.waikato.ac.nz

58 participants
55 discussions

by Matthew Moyle-Croft

On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: > > How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always > decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that > your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit > your AS. I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their peer and then to the far end etc. With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway, the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual relationship. I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder if Google do with ipv6.google.com?). MMC -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia Email: mmc(a)internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.net Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366 Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909

10 years, 6 months

NZRR Route Registry Update

by NZRR Database Notifications

12 years, 4 months

NZRR Route Registry Update

by NZRR Database Notifications

12 years, 4 months

NZRR Route Registry Update

by NZRR Database Notifications

12 years, 4 months

NZRR Route Registry Update

by NZRR Database Notifications

12 years, 4 months

[AusNOG] Future IPv6 allocation policies

by Andy Linton

Hi All, I thought I would post to the list and highlight something that I think you will find important regarding IPv6 future deployment. This week at the APNIC Open Policy Meeting in Beijing (which concluded yesterday) the policy proposal "prop-073-v004: Simplifying allocation/ assignment of IPv6 to APNIC members with existing IPv4 addresses" reached consensus in both the policy SIG (Special Interest Group) and the APNIC Member Meeting. Provided this proposal makes it through the 8 week comment period with consensus intact and the APNIC Executive Council deems the proposal has reached community consensus it will be endorsed, this policy change means: * Any APNIC member organisation that has IPv4, requires no further justification to receive IPv6. - A member that has an IPv4 allocation would be eligible for an IPv6 /32 - A member that has an IPv4 assignment would be eligible for an IPv6 /48 * The APNIC secretariat is directed to implement a simple online request for IPv6 resources under this policy * The policy proposal authors recommend that the APNIC Secretariat communicate to members and others that the criteria for receiving an initial IPv6 block has been reduced and that the process of obtaining IPv6 address space has been made simpler to show that there is no effective barrier to members obtaining IPv6 addresses. Details can be found here: http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-073 I'm sure we all recognise that there are many barriers and issues on the road to IPv6 deployment, this policy proposal makes that first step, of getting IPv6 address space, as easy as possible especially in the APNIC region. Cheers, Andy (Prop-073 Co-Author)

12 years, 4 months

APNIC 28 meeting report

by Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi

________________________________________________________________________ APNIC 28 25-28 August 2009, Beijing, China ________________________________________________________________________ Thank you to everyone who contributed to APNIC 28. The preliminary event participation statistics are: Total number of delegates 272 Delegates at APNIC Member Meeting: 101 Economies represented: 25 APNIC member organizations represented: 51 APNIC held remote participation events via video conference in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and Dhaka, Bangaladesh. Attendance figures for these events were: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia 12 Dhaka, Bangaladesh 86 (TBC) Web-based online participation options included a choice of video, audio and text chat. Participation figures for online remote delegates based on unique IP address were: Online remote participation feeds 288 To read, watch or listen to archives from the meeting, go to: http://meetings.apnic.net/28 Elections --------- During the APNIC Member Meeting (AMM) in Beijing on Friday, 28 August 2009, the following candidate was elected to the NRO NC. - Dr Kenny Huang Elections were held for NIR SIG Chair positions NIR SIG Chair - Izumi Okutani NIR SIG Co-chair - Wei Zhao An election was held for Policy SIG Co-Chair Policy SIG Co-chair - Terence Zhang Congratulations to the successful candidates: Election details are available at: http://meetings.apnic.net/28/elections Meeting decisions ----------------- Policy SIG Seven policy proposals were discussed. The following proposals reached consensus: prop-050: IPv4 address transfers prop-073: Simplifying allocation/assignment of IPv6 to APNIC members with existing IPv4 addresses prop-074: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks (ASNs) to Regional Internet Registries prop-075: Ensuring efficient use of historical AS numbers The following proposal was returned to the mailing list for further discussion: prop-076: Requiring aggregation for IPv6 subsequent allocations The following proposals were returned to their authors for further consideration: prop-077: Proposal to supplement transfer policy of historical IPv4 addresses prop-078: Reserving /10 IPv4 address space to facilitate IPv6 deployment http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals MoU Signed ----------- APNIC signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the following organization: CNNIC (China Internet Network Information Center) Meeting sponsors ---------------- APNIC offers its deepest thanks to the sponsors of APNIC 28, whose invaluable contributions allowed APNIC to offer a meeting program of a very high standard: http://meetings.apnic.net/28/sponsorship Upcoming APNIC meetings ----------------------- APNIC 29 1-5 March 2010 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (with APRICOT 2010) http://meetings.apnic.net/29 APNIC 30 Four Seasons Hotel, Bangkok 23-27 August 2010 Bangkok, Thailand Thanks Sunny -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi email: sunny(a)apnic.net External Relations Manager, APNIC sip: sunny(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net ph/fx: +61 7 3858 3189/99 ____________________________________________________________________

12 years, 4 months

Report on APNIC 28 policy proposals

by Elly Tawhai

Hi NZNOG Community, Below is a summary report of the status of policy proposals following discussion at APNIC 28. The following proposals reached consensus: prop-050: IPv4 address transfers prop-073: Simplifying allocation/assignment of IPv6 to APNIC members with existing IPv4 addresses prop-074: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks (ASNs) to Regional Internet Registries prop-075: Ensuring efficient use of historical AS numbers The following proposal was returned to mailing list for further discussion: prop-076: Requiring aggregation for IPv6 subsequent allocations The following proposals were returned to their authors for further consideration: prop-077: Proposal to supplement transfer policy of historical IPv4 addresses prop-078: Reserving /10 IPv4 address space to facilitate IPv6 deployment Next steps ---------- 1. Proposals that reached consensus will be returned to the Policy SIG mailing list for an eight-week comment period. 2. If no substantial objections are received during the final comment period, the proposals are deemed to have reached consensus at each stage of the policy development process. At this point, the SIG Chairs forward the proposals to the APNIC Executive Council (EC) for endorsement. 3. If the APNIC EC endorses the proposals, the APNIC Secretariat begins work on implementation of the proposals. Implementation usually takes a minimum of three months, but may take more depending on the implementation complexity. For more information on the proposals, please see: http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals For more information on the APNIC policy development process, see: http://www.apnic.net/community/policy/process Kind regards, Elly APNIC

12 years, 4 months

NZRR Route Registry Update

by NZRR Database Notifications

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. 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Remote participation in APNIC 28

by Elly Tawhai

Hi NZNOG Community, You may be aware that APNIC 28 is currently taking place, and the Policy SIG has started. Don't forget you can participate remotely in discussions, ask the presenter questions, and voice your opinion. For more information on webcast, Jabber chat, and live transcript services please see: http://meetings.apnic.net/28 Some of the policy proposals up for discussion this time are: * prop-050: IPv4 address transfers * prop-073: Automatic allocation/assignment of IPv6 * prop-074: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks (ASNs) to Regional Internet Registries * prop-075: Ensuring efficient use of historical AS number * prop-076: Requiring the aggregation of IPv6 subsequent allocations * prop-077: Proposal to supplement transfer policy of historical IPv4 addresses * prop-078: Reserving /10 IPv4 address space to facilitate IPv6 deployment Kind regards, Elly APNIC

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