On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
> How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always
> decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that
> your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit
> your AS.
I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets
via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship
between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their
peer and then to the far end etc.
With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway,
the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that
the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual
I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run
their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder
if Google do with ipv6.google.com?).
Matthew Moyle-Croft Internode/Agile Peering and Core Networks
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exchange to greatly cut latency between Sydney and Auckland.
The PacificIX exchange would go live "by the end of the year", Vocus (ASX:
VOC) chief executive officer James Spenceley (pictured) told iTnews today.
It would run out of the Equinix and Global Switch data centres in Sydney
and from the Auckland Sky Tower and a "second [undisclosed] node"
elsewhere in the NZ city."
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We're all pretty stoked to announce that we're holding our 2011
conference in Wellington. Following last years success we are planning
to hold the three day workshop Monday 24 January to Wednesday 26
January, with the conference tutorial day on Wednesday 26 January and
the main conference on Thursday 27 January and Friday 28 January.
NZNOG 2011 : Jan 24 - Jan 28
Wellington, New Zealand
In the near future we should have a Call For Papers and further
announcements regarding details for the conference (like the venue and
minor details of that nature). Expect conference fees to be similar to
last year with slightly more expensive accommodation.
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[Apologies for duplicates...]
NZNOG 2011 - Call for Participation and Papers
The next conference of the New Zealand Network Operators' Group is to be
held in Wellington, New Zealand between 26 January and 28 January 2011. Our
host is Vodafone New Zealand.
NZNOG meetings provide opportunities for the exchange of technical
information and discussion of issues relating to the operation and
support of network services, with particular emphasis on New Zealand.
The conference is low priced and has a strong technical focus with the
aim and history of getting a strong turnout of technical personal from
New Zealand Internet orientated companies.
NZNOG 2011 will consist of up to three days of workshops and tutorials followed
by two days of conference presentations. There will also be opportunity for
more informal and small lightening talks. These are typically around five
minutes long and are organised closer to the actual conference.
Call for Papers opens: 1 November 2010
Deadline for speaker submissions: 1 December 2010
Responses to speaker submissions: 7 December 2010
Draft program published: 15 December 2010
Final program published: 15 January 2011
NZNOG 2011 Conference: 26 - 29 January 2011
SIG / Miniconf / Tutorials / Workshops
In previous years we have had a single day of workshops and tutorials,
this year however we are looking at having up to three days of workshops
and tutorials, if we can get the submissions.
Examples of past activities workshops include 'MPLS and fixed access
networks for beginners', 'Mikrotik RouterOS Training', 'APNIC Internet
Resource Management Essentials', and a System Administrators
mini-conference which included talks on 'Using Debian packages for
system administration' and '42 hosts in 1U: Using virtual machines'.
The main conference program for 2011 will be made up of two days with a
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Past years' talks have included the following:
- Internet exchange operations
- Global anycast networks and the building thereof
- Peering, peering, and peering
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- 10GB ethernet operations
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- Content distribution networks and media streaming
- Open Source VoIP Platform in Carrier Environments
- Lawful Interception
- Designing networks for High Availability
- ISP scenarios for IPv6 deployment
- Monkeying around on the APE
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- DNS Security
- Routing Security
- Review of 2010
- Internet Filtering
- How Cloud Computing has impacted Network Design
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hour long lightning talk session.
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[Obligatory apology for duplicates...]
Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies
15 - 25 February 2011, Hong Kong
CALL FOR PAPERS
The APRICOT 2011 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for
Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2011.
We are looking for people and proposals that would:
- Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; and/or
- Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; and/or
- Convene and chair a Birds of a Feather (BOF) session.
Please submit proposals on-line at
Call for Papers Opens: 29 October 2010
First Deadline for Submissions: 29 November 2010
First Draft Programme Published: 6 December 2010
Final Deadline for Submissions: 4 February 2011
Final Programme Published: 11 February 2011
Final Slides Received: 19 February 2011
The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including
workshops, tutorials and the conference. The APNIC Policy SIG and
Annual Members Meeting will be held during the APRICOT conference.
Topics for tutorials and conference would include amongst others
relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:
- IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations
- IPv4 address runout / IPv6 deployment and transition technologies
- Backbone operations
- ISP and Carrier services
- Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
- Peering / IXPs
- DNS / DNSSEC
- Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management,
- Access and Transport Technologies, including broadband deployment,
Cable/DSL, wireless, WiMax, metro ethernet, fiber network, MPLS
- Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence",
Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be
provided with CFP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will
be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most
current information available at time of submission is acceptable.
Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
publication on the APRICOT website.
While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by the first
submission deadline, a limited number of slots may be available up to
the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally
timely, important, or of critical operational importance.
Please submit on-line at
Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme
Committee by e-mail.
We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.
Jonny Martin & Mark Tinka
Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee
KSK CEREMONY 3
The third KSK ceremony for the root zone will take place in Culpeper,
VA, USA on Monday 2010-11-01. The ceremony is scheduled to begin
at 1300 local time (1700 UTC) and is expected to end by 1900 local
time (2300 UTC).
Video from Ceremony 3 will be recorded for audit purposes. Video
and associated audit materials will be published 1 to 2 weeks after
the ceremony, and will be available as usual by following the "KSK
Ceremony Materials" link at <https://www.iana.org/dnssec/>.
ICANN will operate a separate camera whose video will not be retained
for audit purposes, but which will instead be streamed live in order
to provide remote observers an opportunity to watch the ceremony.
The live stream will be provided on a best-effort basis. The live
video stream will be available at <http://dns.icann.org/ksk/stream/>.
Ceremony 3 will include processing of a Key Signing Request (KSR)
generated by VeriSign, and the resulting Signed Key Response (SKR)
will contain signatures for Q1 2011, for use in the root zone between
2011-01-01 and 2011-02-28.
We'd like to hear from you. If you have feedback for us, please
send it to rootsign(a)icann.org.
This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are
designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing
These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers
(http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded
in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a
period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an
exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and
consequently a full set of routes.
descr: advertised to AS9439 by Datalight Limited - AS45831
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20100721
descr: advertised to AS9439 by Datalight Limited - AS45831
changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20101029
I have an urgent (today/tomorrow) requirement for how to deliver a normal internet service in Singapore... most likely the downtown area.
Has anyone got any contacts or links to pricing - also maybe someone who can install a router configured in Australia.
I'm looking for a good download limit includes, or flat rate, with static IP a must.
Please reply off-list.
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