On 09/03/2009, at 1:44 PM, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
>
> How is that different from normal IP routing? The other end always
> decides which way to send packets back to you, and in the event that
> your customer is multihomed, the return path might not even transit
> your AS.
I control my outbound and inbound routing. People only send packets
via routes I advertise and I can show a contractual relationship
between me and my upstream or peer, my upstream and theirs or their
peer and then to the far end etc.
With using 6to4 the downside is that whilst I may have my own gateway,
the FAR end could be using a 3rd party 6to4 gateway. This means that
the return packets traverse links for which I have no contractual
relationship.
I guess in some way I'm agreeing with Joe that everyone SHOULD run
their own, especially if they offer up content over IPv6. (I wonder
if Google do with ipv6.google.com?).
MMC
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_______________________________________________________________________
Leading Global Internet Groups make Significant Announcement about the
Status of the IPv4 Address Pool
_______________________________________________________________________
Hi NZNOG Community,
APNIC invites the Internet Community to be a part of an important
milestone in the history of the Internet.
Much has been written in the international media over the last few
weeks about the dwindling pool of Internet addresses using the original
Internet protocol, called IPv4 (Internet Protocol version 4). This
week, IANA allocated two /8 address blocks to the Asia Pacific Network
Information Centre (APNIC).
As such, the Number Resource Organization (NRO), along with the
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the
Internet Society (ISOC), and the Internet Architecture Board (IAB) will
be holding a press conference and presentation to make a significant
announcement and to discuss the global transition to the next
generation of Internet addresses.
Thursday, 3 February 2011, at 09:30 (UTC -5)
Rod Beckstrom, ICANN President and CEO
Raul Echeberria, NRO Chair
Lynn St. Amour, ISOC President and CEO
Olaf Kolkman, IAB Chair
Watch remotely
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Off-site community members can participate, via live web streaming at:
http://www.nro.net/news/icann-nro-live-stream
Spread the Word
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Carry the message back to your colleagues. Use the #IPv4 in your
tweets.
_______________________________________________________________________
APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net
Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100
PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199
6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net
_______________________________________________________________________
* Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.
_______________________________________________________________________
Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (39/8 and 106/8)
_______________________________________________________________________
Hi NZNOG Community,
The information in this announcement is to enable the Internet
community to update network configurations, such as routing filters,
where required.
APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in February
2011 and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near
future:
39/8
106/8
Reachability and routability testing of the new prefixes will commence
soon. The daily report will be published at the usual URL:
http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon
Please be aware, this will be the final allocation made by IANA under
the current framework and will trigger the final distribution of five
/8 blocks, one to each RIR under the agreed "Global policy for the
allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space".
http://www.icann.org/en/general/allocation-remaining-ipv4-space.htm
After these final allocations, each RIR will continue to make
allocations according to their own established policies.
APNIC expects normal allocations to continue for a further three to six
months. After this time, APNIC will continue to make small allocations
from the last /8 block, guided by section 9.10 in "Policies for IPv4
address space management in the Asia Pacific region". This policy
ensures that IPv4 address space is available for IPv6 transition.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy
It is expected that these allocations will continue for at least
another five years.
APNIC reiterates that IPv6 is the only means available for the
sustained ongoing growth of the Internet, and urges all members of the
Internet industry to move quickly towards its deployment.
Kind regards,
_______________________________________________________________________
APNIC Secretariatsecretariat(a)apnic.net
Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100
PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199
6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLDhttp://www.apnic.net
_______________________________________________________________________
* Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.
More info on the blocks allocated to APNIC.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Srinivas Chendi <sunny(a)apnic.net>
Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:13 PM
Subject: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Two /8s allocated to APNIC from
IANA (39/8 and 106/8)
To: apnic-announce(a)apnic.net
_______________________________________________________________________
Two /8s allocated to APNIC from IANA (39/8 and 106/8)
_______________________________________________________________________
Dear Colleagues
The information in this announcement is to enable the Internet
community to update network configurations, such as routing filters,
where required.
APNIC received the following IPv4 address blocks from IANA in February
2011 and will be making allocations from these ranges in the near
future:
39/8
106/8
Reachability and routability testing of the new prefixes will commence
soon. The daily report will be published at the usual URL:
http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon
Please be aware, this will be the final allocation made by IANA under
the current framework and will trigger the final distribution of five
/8 blocks, one to each RIR under the agreed "Global policy for the
allocation of the remaining IPv4 address space".
http://www.icann.org/en/general/allocation-remaining-ipv4-space.htm
After these final allocations, each RIR will continue to make
allocations according to their own established policies.
APNIC expects normal allocations to continue for a further three to six
months. After this time, APNIC will continue to make small allocations
from the last /8 block, guided by section 9.10 in "Policies for IPv4
address space management in the Asia Pacific region". This policy
ensures that IPv4 address space is available for IPv6 transition.
http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy
It is expected that these allocations will continue for at least
another five years.
APNIC reiterates that IPv6 is the only means available for the
sustained ongoing growth of the Internet, and urges all members of the
Internet industry to move quickly towards its deployment.
Kind regards,
_______________________________________________________________________
APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net
Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100
PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199
6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net
_______________________________________________________________________
* Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.
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The University of Waikato |
There's nothing like a little competition to keep folks on their toes, so I
propose we have a challenge or two during the workshop lead-up to 2012
NZNOG.
In one-day sessions, teams design (virtually - paper, white board, etc.,
with results to panel in PDF format) for the following:
1. Your POP has been blown up. With only what you can grab off the shelf
from Dick Smith / Atech / Jaycar, etc., design a carrier network to handle
Ethernet delivered L2TP traffic from 100,000 ADSL subscribers, 50,000 gPON
subscribers, and 20,000 SIP based VoIP customers. You have a 3g connection
to the Internet to download whatever software you need and a $20k limit on
your credit card.
2. Your government has "turned off" the Internet - i.e. blocked access to
Southern Cross. Find alternative solutions (i.e. satellite, troposcatter,
packets over ham radio, whatever) to keep the tubes going. Decide what kind
of traffic is going to get through and what isn't. Assume you have comrades
on the other side to help you route and filter as necessary. You have a
64kbps Inmarsat connection with which to download any software you don't
have on hand. You can use any form of transit that isn't SXC.
These challenges are provoked by the folks who think there's some way to
turn off "The Internet" in New Zealand - a position with which I disagree.
I'd appreciate any thoughts on the contests above, and of course any further
development of the concept.
Cheers,
-JB
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