At 11:54 a.m. 2/09/2011, Josh Farrelly wrote:
>Because with the current data plans and pricing nobody in their right
>mind is silly enough to torrent to their phone?
Guess I'm silly. I run 5-6 USB sticks across both Telecom and
Vodafone with either 4 or 8GB plans. We use one a day and then swap
sticks. Generally we're uploading or live, but on a quiet month I do
use them for downloading legit video from UCTV or UWTV or
Berlin. Mobile broadband is nice and fast and better than ADSL,
especially when you fly into a town for a few hours. We carry big
antenna for them. (up to 27dbi)
Otherwise you see us parked outside public places uploading via their wifi :-)
In Hamilton, we park outside Shane Hobson's office. Would be handy if
he'd put a 3 pin power plug outside and tell us where the nearest loo is.
US broadcasters regularly use channel bonded mobile broadband for
links. We just use single systems for now, but even NZ broadcasters
use mobile bb. RNZ, TRN (NewstalkZB and Radiosport) and the IWI
stations use it all the time. On TV they use it for News and
generally cover any jitter issues with a "live via Internet" caption.
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On 2/09/2011, at 10:28 AM, Neil Gardner wrote:
> On 2 September 2011 10:23, Jay Daley <jay(a)nzrs.net.nz> wrote:
>> I think that is entirely unfair. The objections that bring the strongest complaints are:
>> - this is disproportionate - in the punishments available, the cost of the process, and the priority given to the list
>> - it turns due process on its head
>> - far too many innocent people will be affected because of the crap techniques used to identify infringement and the difficulty in challenging it
> Please! We have credible media commentators and prominent figures
> within the NZ community going on record saying they will continue to
> illegally download stuff because the media companies won't change
> their distribution models...
Where exactly have they said that? What I've heard them say is that a key reason people download illegally in NZ is because of the poor availability of legal content, particularly when compared to other markets. And so long as that continues, that will stay as a reason to download illegally. That's a statement of fact, not a statement of intent.
> Disproportionate? The fine is _UP TO_ $15k, and COULD (but I agree
> won't be) be as low at a few hundred $ (including costs)
$15k is grossly disproportionate. The RHs have consistently overstated the true cost of piracy and yet their figures still carry weight in this process. Even the US Gov't called their figures rubbish:
> Due process on head? As was shown a few pages back, there's an
> assumption initially that the information presented by the rights
> holders is correct (and the methods for this will have been reviewed
> by an industry group within NZ), but if challenged in the tribunal,
> the onus is on the rights holder to show their information is correct.
Due process would be RHs going to tribunal and having to provide evidence to establish their case and that evidence being open to challenge. In this topsy turvy process they don't have to provide evidence, only an allegation, and that is presumed to be correct and then the accused has to challenge it.
> As I have said, I think the law does suck - but the arguments most
> people are using against it are a steaming pile of BS.
So your reasons for thinking the law sucks are better than most people's?
> Cheers -N
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