Telecom have announced their Dial IP service will be retired on Dec 1 this
Are any ISPs on this list intending on still offering dial-up after this
date? Maybe using their own modem banks or via the TelstraVodahugClearDice
Feel free to reply on or off list.
(vaguely representing Inspire Net)
As some of you may have noticed ntp2.ntp.net.nz and its aliases
p2.ntp.net.nz and s2.ntp.net.nz stopped responding late on 08-07-2014.
This is related to a hardware fault with the NTP appliance, we are
currently investigating both repair and replacement options.
As a temporary measure the DNS records for ntp2.ntp.net.nz,
p2.ntp.net.nz and s2.ntp.net.nz have been pointed to ntp3.ntp.net.nz.
Information about these appliances and the services they provide can be
found at https://ntp.net.nz.
If you need any further information, please contact us at
.nz Registry Services
M: +64 21 783 399
P: +64 4 555 0124
GPG: 6516 B4EA 413B CAED 57B5 0956 124C 8AC3 A362 8080
Does anyone out there have a recommendation for a good network topology
mapping application ?
I want to see a live layer 2 and 3 topology diagrams - routing and vlans
juniper space used to have such a plugin but they killed it :(
the only other mention of an app capable of such a thing that I have heard
of is solar winds .
Network Topology Mapper
Any advice or experience with such an app would be much appreciated.
Just wondering if people knew where Spark was going to be serving up Lightbox from? Is it akamai? or another CDN system?
I just looked at their base domain which seems to hit a redirect hosted in Amazon AWS and then to a register form hosted in Exact Target.
Just wanting to see where the traffic will be coming from to be ready should it turn out to be popular (It does seem to be some first run stuff but still not convinced it will be amazingly popular - we will see)
I didn’t find the information from my simple google search however this could be just a bad search.
Neilson Productions Limited
021 329 681
022 456 2326
Last week it was Xtra blocking outbound mail at reception.
This week any message having a Xtra or Yahoo address in the From header is
being rejected upon receipt from our listserver, despite the listserver
using its own address in the envelope & in the Sender header.
When I follow the URL in the quoted SMTP responses, it turns out that Yahoo
think I should change my listserver so that the senders address does not
appear in the From header. Which sucks, because we already put the
listserver's own address in the Sender header (which most mail clients will
then render as "From knitting circle on behalf of Jane Smith"), and as far
as I know, we're following the RFCs to the letter.
So have I missed something in the RFCs that permits Yahoo to do this?
They're essentially saying "we don't permit our subscribers to subscribe to
mailing lists unless the mailing list is deliberately broken".
FYI - looks like there is an issue with telecom authoritative DNS.
Short version: it's currently broken.
Long version: there is a whois/NS loop
$ whois telecom.co.nz.
$ whois spark.co.nz
No glue records, so no way to resolve the NS IP's
ish4.telecom.co.nz. A 188.8.131.52
ish5.telecom.co.nz. A 184.108.40.206
ns1.spark.co.nz. A 220.127.116.11
ns2.spark.co.nz. A 18.104.22.168
ns3.spark.co.nz. A 22.214.171.124
I wanted to enquire for anyone who may have experience or had issues with
people running Open Wireless Networks and/or have any particular view to
the Open Wireless movement (https://openwireless.org/)?
Alongside this question I am interested in gauging how much IP Addresses
are used as a token of identity for legal purposes in practice.
This for the purposes of research at the Law Faculty of Otago. My apologies
if this is somewhat outside of the purview of this mailing list. Any
insight gratefully accepted.
B. Morgan Murrah
On 25/07/2014 12:00 p.m., nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote:
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> 1. Xtra's email changes (Glen Eustace)
> 2. Re: Xtra's email changes (Glen Eustace)
> 3. Re: Xtra's email changes (Nathan Ward)
> 4. Re: Xtra's email changes (Nathan Ward)
> 5. Re: Xtra's email changes (Brian Gibbons)
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:19:42 +1200
> From: Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz>
> To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>
> Subject: [nznog] Xtra's email changes
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> Can somebody confirm or deny please.
> I just had another query where a customer uses Xtra broadband, and is
> hence an xtra customer but are hosting their email with us. If they use
> their someone(a)xtra.co.nz email address to authenticate against
> send.xtra.co.nz, can they continue to use their own domain when sending
> email ?
> This seems, in my opinion, to be something that should be allowed but I
> can't test it as I am not an Xtra customer nor have access to an Xtra
> broadband connection.
+64 (0)21 494 165
On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 20:30 +1200, Alexander Neilson wrote:
> Probable that nobody can give you a final answer on it until the
> policy actually takes effect as it would work fine now.
> However you could contact xtra and ask.
Probably good advice, so I gave it a go.
The first person I spoke to didn't know so I was passed on to another.
The response I received was.
The 'send.xtra.co.nz' server will reject any address that has not been
registered even if an xtra.co.nz address has been used for
authentication. To register such addresses, ring the Telecom Broadband
Help Desk on 0800225598.
I then raised the question of whether the MFD photocopiers had been
catered for as many don't provide a particularly feature-full smtp
client. The answer was "I don't know, please try it and see, if it
doesn't work please contact us and we will try to get it working for
These were better responses than I had expected but still leave me
trying to explain to our customers what they need to do.
(Replying to the list, because you did the same for Alexander Neilson)
On 24/07/2014, at 9:53 pm, Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz> wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-07-24 at 21:46 +1200, Nathan Ward wrote:
>> I’m confused, are there questions you have that are not answered by this page?
> OK, I plead ignorance. I didn't get the original letter sent to the customer and I didn't know about this page. And yes you are right it pretty much gives all the answers.
I learned about this page from this post: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2014-July/020987.html
I have learned that it is wise not to ignore email from Richard Naylor, especially when it is a reply to a post you’ve made to the list.
> In relation to the MFDs from what I have heard, the ones that are broken are not that old <face-sad.png>
Like I say, don’t put them anywhere near the Internet, or replace them with something with software written since the 1990s. I’m sure the NE2000 network card upgrade was expensive at the time, but really, I’m sure it’s done it’s dash.
Anyway, I recommend that the rest of this conversation happen on Geekzone, there’s a thread on it here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=150006