Can somebody confirm or deny please.
I just had another query where a customer uses Xtra broadband, and is
hence an xtra customer but are hosting their email with us. If they use
their someone(a)xtra.co.nz email address to authenticate against
send.xtra.co.nz, can they continue to use their own domain when sending
This seems, in my opinion, to be something that should be allowed but I
can't test it as I am not an Xtra customer nor have access to an Xtra
Glen and Rosanne Eustace,
GodZone Internet Services, a division of AGRE Enterprises Ltd.,
P.O. Box 8020, Palmerston North, New Zealand 4446
Ph: +64 6 357 8168, Fax: +64 6 357 8165, Mob: +64 27 542 4015
"A Ministry specialising in providing low-cost professional Internet
Services to NZ Christian Churches, Ministries and Organisations"
This by now is a pretty standard, we too are closing down public access to the last of our open recursive resolvers. CallPlus Group (Slingshot/Flip/2Talk/Callplus/Orcon) customers will continue to have access to them, but external access will be denied.
Close Date: 31st July 2014
All of the above IP addresses will stop answering to recursive queries for non CallPlus/Slingshot/2Talk/Flip/Orcon customers Thursday Morning 31/July/2014.
If for some strange reason this would cause you concern, please contact myself on this email address. (Malware authors are welcome to contact with their GPS coordinates and bunker thickness - we can arrange something).
NOC Support Manager
Direct: +64 9 919 6162
Mobile: +64 21 960 411
Fax: +64 9 919 6163
I need someone for some onsite work in Albany on Thursday from about 4pm NZ
Also, the SAME resources should be able to return back there on Friday
morning for any user related issues.
It is basically moving desktops from domain to another... about 11
desktops, making sure printing works, etc.
One guy should be enough, but I'd like an option for two if required.
Someone please get back to me ASAP so I can lock this in. Respond by email
Someone with recommendations from someone I know and trust in the community
would help :)
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Call for Presentations - DNS-OARC Fall Workshop, October 2014
Next OARC Fall Workshop will take place in Los Angeles, California, USA
on October 11th to the 13th, the weekend before ICANN51. On Monday
October 13th there will be a joint session with ICANN Tech Day. OARC is
requesting proposals for presentations, with a preference for DNS data
analysis tools and techniques.
This workshop continues OARC's tradition of having meetings include a
strong operational component. Presentations from DNS operators are
particularly welcome. We'll also gladly accept talks from DNS
researchers, as well as any other DNS-related subjects such as tools,
visualizations, DNSSEC and novel uses of the DNS. If you are an OARC
member, and have a sensitive topic you would like to present for
members-only, we will accommodate those talks too. Adopting practice
from other conferences, a section of lighting talks will be available
for short presentations.
* 20 July 2014, Call for Presentations posted
* 21 July 2014, Open for submissions
* 15 August 2014, Deadline for submission
* 29 August 2014, Final Program published
Details for abstract submission will be published here:
The workshop will be organized on different tracks, depending on the
topics. On Sunday October 12th we will have the more in depth technical
presentations, and on Monday October 13th presentations that can benefit
from a larger and broader audience. If you consider submitting a
presentation, please let the Programme Committee know for which track in
advance to help us organize the presentations tracks. You can contact
the Programme Committee:
via (submissions(a)dns-oarc.net) if you have questions or concerns.
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(Please note that OARC is run on a non-profit basis, and is not in a
position to reimburse expenses or time for speakers at its meetings.)
Has anyone else been seeing their Vodafone Blue (Telstra Clear) BGP sessions expiring hold timers / flapping this evening?
We were experiencing the sessions timing out and dropping then coming back from about 6:50pm NZ till about 9:15pm NZ and looking at BGPlay I can’t see any withdrawals from when the sessions dropped so outbound traffic seemed to re route however inbound was at least partially black holed.
I tried to ring the faults team and got no answer, I have sent in a fault via email nearly an hour ago and no response yet so was looking to try and isolate who / where people experienced this and try nut out what is happening.
Neilson Productions Limited
021 329 681
022 456 2326
We have had enquiries from several of our customers in the last couple
of days regarding an email they have received from Telecom. It relates
to a change in Telecom's email service that I find interesting.
These customers use Telecom as their ISP, and have a mailbox on
Telecom's Yahoo/Xtra service but they use their own domain when sending
messages, we are their MX host and we redirect their mail to their
xtra.co.nz address. Apparently from the end of September Telecom are
going to prevent their customers from using their SMTP servers unless
the From address on outbound email is an Xtra one (or I presume a domain
that they manage).
Up until now, we have always instructed customers to use the SMTP
servers belonging to their ISP (i.e. the ISP providing their Internet
service), that advice now goes out the window and we are going to have
to work with Telecom's customers to help them setup authenticated SMTP
to our servers.
I am not impressed that Telecom are effectively going to break their
email service (for their own customers) and are relying on others (e.g.
us) to fix their customers email for them, when in my opinion, the
customers email isn't currently broken.
Anyone can opt out of port 25 blocking. It's nothing to do with static ip or not.
Sent from my phone on the smartphonetwork.
-------- Original message --------
From: David Mitchell <David.Mitchell(a)lanworx.co.nz>
Date: 15/07/2014 9:09 PM (GMT+12:00)
To: Dave Green <dave.green(a)snowline.co.nz>,nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service
That is correct, send requires authentication.
A bit of a pain for Xerox copiers that don't support authentication correctly.
Also, Telecom block outbound port 25, unless you opt out, and can only opt out on a connection with a static IP.
From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Dave Green
Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2014 6:32 p.m.
Subject: Re: [nznog] Change to Telecom's email service
> On 15/07/2014, at 17:43, Glen Eustace <geustace(a)godzone.net.nz> wrote:
> Here is the relevant parts of the email. NB: The customer uses their
> xtra mailbox and POPs from it. But they have their From: set to the
> address below.
> OPTION 1: Keep using admin(a)customers-domain.co.nz.
Doesn't send.xtra.co.nz require authentication while smtp.xtra.co.nz doesn't (but the connection must come from an Xtra subscriber)? Or something like that.
If you get your free Xtra email addy and use that to auth to send.xtra.co.nz I wouldn't have thought it would matter what the From email address is.
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>From what I understand, most bandwidth purchased from the Southern Cross
access cables is purchased in symmetrical quantities. ie 1gbps in both ways.
Given that a lot of this is sold to residential ISPs with download
favorable profiles, do any of them resell transit at a lower cost with a
high up to down ratio (ie 1 gigabit up, 10 down or something similar)?
We have recently started offering more creative int'l transit options including time-of-day based bandwidth. You're welcome to contact me off-list if you want to discuss further.
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>> From what I understand, most bandwidth purchased from the Southern Cross
> access cables is purchased in symmetrical quantities. ie 1gbps in both ways.
> Given that a lot of this is sold to residential ISPs with download
> favorable profiles, do any of them resell transit at a lower cost with a
> high up to down ratio (ie 1 gigabit up, 10 down or something similar)?