ah, guys, I hate to point out the blaringly obvious, but you can't just get
100x128k (or more) connections and stick them together and think you have 12
meg of real bandwidth. It just doesn't work that way, there is no device
that load balances 100 (or more !) http (or whatever) connections out lots
of little pipes, and if there was it would be utterly chaotic and
unworkable. Also remember, ISP's only survive because they can oversell the
wholesale bandwith they buy. When you buy your 128k Jetstart connection,
your are NOT buying 128k of Internet dedicated to you. If all the users used
all of their bandwith ALL ISP's would go broke in a matter of months.
From: Don Gould - BVC [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 10:38 p.m.
Subject: RE: [nznog] Commerce Commission - bitstream etc. FUD!
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:50:00 +1300 (NZDT), Mark Foster wrote
Thanks for the reference.
"If you are acquiring our Jetstream service for
I had a quick look at those T&C and it didn't seem to indicate that there
were any conditions placed on what I do with the service.
As I understand it Telecom has been challanged on issues like this before
with relation to their telephone service where small businesses are
Where the service is being obtained for a purpose that
into the above the t&c for business customers comes into affect-
and jetstream starter is a residential product, can only be given
to residential customers.
What is the difference between a business and residential service?
In Australia most people seem to agree that it's the level of back up you
expect. If something breaks business customers get seen to first - are we
As much as Rob's comment looks like FUD
there's an element of truth.
Most FUD always has an element of truth... let me give you an example...
What do you think would happen if Telecom were to sue (as suggested by
Robert) a New Zealand family for sharing part of their JetStart connection
with their local school?
Would the kids give up their $10 a month TXT and be content with using a
little less txt on a Vodafone mobile and then tell all their friends to do
the same? (I won't even go into the field day that Vodafone would have with
Would the family cancel their ADSL account, Sky Accont and home phone line
accounts then switch to Telstra cable, with their pay tv offering and then
tell all their relations to do the same?
Would mum and dad put preasure on their employers to move their data, mobile
and voice services away from Telecom and to another provider?
Could 800 Students ranging in age from 12 to 17 have a huge impact on a
telephone company if said telephone company started to sue them... 
Schools are businesses and are charged business rates.
Schools are in the business of teaching our children. Those children go on
to become the future of New Zealand.
Children are some of the biggest buyers of telecommunication products and
services - least Telecom forget that.
cut them various deals to get online as economically as possible.
Thanks for the info.
 Have a quick look at what's happening in the US where families have been
sued by the music industry - suing a child does not make you look good in
The technology exists to give every home 10mbits per second for $10 per
Ask not what your telephone company should do for you...
...but what you can do for your broadband community!
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