On Fri, 28 May 2004, Seeby Woodhouse wrote:
Someone with some spare hands on their time needs to
government to make peering in NZ legislation.
I've heard a couple of times the suggestion that this sort of thing also
be established in Australia. Basically the government lists a bunch of
Internet exchanges ( In Australia it would the one or two per state, In NZ
I'd guess APE, WIX and perhaps a few others in Hamilton, Christchurch and
Dunedin) and the ISP has to announce their domestic networks to them.
The main problem is that if we leave T&T to themselves then they will
effectively suck extra revenue out of the end-user in NZ, Make it more
difficult for smaller ISPs to compete, discourage the development of high
speed services and encourage people to setup sites outside of New Zealand
rather than inside.
In Australia it's usually cheaper for ISPs to exchange traffic (3rd or 4th
hand) with Telstra in Palo Alto rather than within Australia. I suspect
we'll start seeing that in New Zealand.
Although TNZ and TCNZ will be wearing a lot of the
network costs in
terms of trunking traffic up and down the country, they also have most
of the customers - so I think that's fair and justified.
Thats why you have exchanges in several centers. So Telecom can announce
each region in the regional Exchange while (say) Maxnet might announce
their entire Network in Auckland  since that is where all their Network
If they are worried about people using their networks
as a free national
backbone via the peering points, there are ways to allow peering but
prevent being used as free transit...
I was actually surprised that WIX and APE's Terms and Conditions don't
explicitly ban this. Pipe has a bit that does:
" Participants agree to never "default route" via another PIPE MLPA
participant, without full agreement between both parties. The act of using
a "default route" without permission can result in immediate termination
services from the PIPE. " 
and I suspect most other exchanges have similar rules.
 - Of course Telstra could be evil an announce their networks in
Dunedin only but you can either have rules to prevent that or just see it
as regional development.
 - http://www.pipenetworks.com/Peering/tr.shtml
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