I've had a similar experience with ALU BNG's - wouldn’t terminate 0x88a8 off a pseudowire from the handover port - had to go around and change all the handovers to 0x8100…


On 9/10/2014, at 1:30 pm, Dave Mill <davemill@gmail.com> wrote:

In our testing about 2 years ago our juniper bng wouldn't handle 0x88a8 as the outer tag when doing the auto conf demux stuff.


On Thursday, October 9, 2014, Nathan Ward <nznog@daork.net> wrote:
On 9 October 2014 at 1:09:42 pm, Brent Marquis (brent.marquis@chorus.co.nz(mailto:brent.marquis@chorus.co.nz)) wrote:
> Sorry for the quick reply to myself!
> It actually seems like Don might not be 100% correct.
> I don’t have IEEE access to get the .1q standard… But Wikipedia suggests it has been updated in 2005 for CFI to be DEI:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1ad
> Drop eligible indicator (DEI): a 1-bit field. (formerly CFI[note 1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1Q#cite_note-2)[2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1Q#cite_note-3)) May be used separately or in conjunction with PCP to indicate frames eligible to be dropped in the presence of congestion.[3](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1Q#cite_note-4)
> With the note suggesting – “IEEE 802.1Q-2005 clause 9.6”
> If it’s on Wikipedia, it must be true…. Right? J

The quote above is from the 802.1q page. If you read the page you link to, the 802.1ad page, you get:

In IEEE 802.1ad the CFI is replaced by a Drop Eligibility Indicator (DEI), increasing the functionality of the PCP field.

Key bit is “802.1ad”, not 802.1q. Using 0x88a8 vs 0x8100/0x9100 is signalling that you’re using 802.1ad vs. stacked 802.1q, so should set this bit appropriate to the tag type.
I’m with Don on this one - the frame type bits signal how to interpret the following bits, you can’t just swap them around.

People should really just use 0x88a8 - those who aren’t, can I ask why not? Is it because you’re trying to tunnel it over a switch that doesn’t support 802.1ad or something? I’m not saying it’s wrong, I’m interested in understanding the situations in which you might do this.

Nathan Ward
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