Xtra offer a
product called 'Secure Remote Email' which is an alternative
for roaming customers. SSL, and works regardless of the ISP you're on.
Is good to know for customer reference. Telstra Clear offers this
already and i didnt know that Xtra do. Cool.
They have done for ~2 years or longer.
Noted that Xtra have stated that people who want to be
excluded from the
block need only ask.
Yep :) - have you seen what they want you to agree to for this?
Tell them your AV software
Tell them your firewall software
State the reason for doing it
Tell them your mail server software
Agree to terms and conditions including that you will keep your AV and
firewall software up to date at all times.
This sounds like typical companyspeak for "we want to opt out of being
responsible for any virus traffic originating from your network, so we
make it clear that you are in fact responsible". And theyre actually
requiring some responsible behavior from their clients.
Realising that for 99% of their customers the restriction
wont cause any problems - and for a substantial proportion of the
remainder (windows users) the need to actually make clear that you're
taking responsibility is not really that unreasonable.
At the very least, the info goes on file, so that if theres a problem
later on, Xtra can very pointedly say 'you agreed to keep your system up
to date and secure'.
So its not necessarily the nicest situation, I admitt, but I can't say i'm
hugely suprised. One just has to hope theres some cloo being used to
Oh, and for the foolish person who 'CBF' finding out whether the opt-out
costed anything or not - its already been stated in various press
releases, etc, that the opt-out will not cost anything.
I had a thought that it would be quite a good idea for
providers to be able to apply to XTRA to get there servers excluded
from the list. Haven't thought about the practically or legal issues
here - of which there are many!
Huh? Xtra's policy affects their customers only. How does this indicate a
need for other providers to be excluded - when the policy doesnt affect
Going back to the original question, however - I am interested to hear if
any other ISPs are considering implementing a similar policy; I'll
likewise be interested to hear exactly what sort of volume-impacts are
noted once the block is implemented.