On 25/01/2015 10:28 AM, "Alastair Johnson" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> On 1/24/15 11:11 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen wrote:
>> My personal view is I personally doubt there will be much movement for
>> the next 5+ years or even more unless the "killer v6" app comes out or
>> something major happens like Facebook only supporting v6 from a certain
>> date. There are fairly simple reasons why.
> I find that a depressing view. There's no reason for most ISPs why IPv6 should not be delivered on broadband today, especially from new market entrants.
I agree.. but how come bigpipe and Myrepublic both launched with a v4 only stack.
And how come trademe, nzherald, stuff, nbr, computerworld, xero don't have v6 enabled. In fact I struggled to find a mainstream site that was v6 enabled. These too are the main domestic providers of content in whatever form yet they haven't launched their service with a dual stack. Why are we not complaining they are not providing dual stack access to their sites.
>> Most ISPs have plenty of spare address space and the retail fixed
>> broadband market is pretty static.
>> Even the new players like bigpipe and myrepublic have managed to get v4
>> address space. And those two didn't launch with a dual stack. Why was
>> It's been shown that even the new players can survive with CGNat in the
>> days of Section 92 without needing to log everything I presume.
>> In the mobile space I can see it happening. But at the same time CGNat
>> seems to be working for them too.
> CGN will not save you, and will add significant capital and operational cost to any ISP, regardless of technology chosen.
> IPv6 has an up-front cost to complete the engineering to support it; CGN has costs forever. I do not think that is a wise long term investment - and as Brian pointed out, the world's largest operators seem to have agreed with that view.
> I have native IPv6 (dual stack) on my wireline connection in my US home; native IPv6 on my US LTE cellular device (dual stack w/ NAT IPv4). Many operators worldwide have completed the implementation, and IPv6 traffic is trending upward.
Not disagreeing with you at all. All of my international hosted VPSs are dual stack with v6 preference.
But my main point about v4 scarcity is the main driver for the comcasts of this world to move to dual stack or pure v6. And that scarcity doesn't apply as much in NZ. So for that reason adoption here I suspect will continue to be slow.
V6 was something I was pushing for with some vigor at my employer a few years ago. But then I saw the spare address space most ISPs have means the priority is not there.
I still believe the main issue facing our country will be with the Chorus ATM and BUBA issue for our rural folks. That's not something that is going to be solved any time soon with the tighter budgets Chorus faces. That will have a greater impact on our economy for a longer time the longer it takes to get sorted. V6 is IMHO quite far down the priority list.
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