At 7:13 AM +1200 27/8/02, DPF wrote:
Oh, and how was
it that 'co.nz' was deemed appropriate for commercial
entities? I was under the distinct impression that a bad sense of Internet
humour didn't exist in New Zealand until I moved here.
These decisions predate InternetNZ and I presume were made by John
Houlker after consultation with others in the early or mid 90s. The
decisions, as I understand it, was to mainly follow the .uk structure
except we chose govt.nz instead of gov.nz.
Consensus of the implementors at the time, of whom John was but one
of several, and it was 88-89, not early-mid 90s. (I appear to have
been visible @vuwcomp.nz in 88 and @rata.vuw.ac.nz by 89).
Some design goals (in hindsight, possibly misguided):
1. Delegated authority. I.e., choose a few 2LDs and the owners of
those got to do the work of administering them. Any rules they chose
to impose were their decision, subject to the rfc constraints and
some guidelines. The DNS was designed to be a delegated hierarchy.
2. This was still the time of uucp names, and even with an
organisation the top level domains might not be appended. Thus, we
might write jeffries.law rather than jeffries.law.vuw or
jeffries.law.vuw.ac.nz. For this reason, the use of TLDs as 2LDs was
avoided. I.e. co.nz, ac.nz, govt.nz rather than com.nz, edu.nz,
gov.nz. But then we went and did mil.nz and org.nz anyway, sigh.
3. In the best tradition of monosyllabic gutteral, and 'ls' rather
than 'dir', we preferred shorter names ('co' vs 'com',
'edu'). :-) The other reason for avoiding com.nz was as set out in
(2)---and for whatever reason it appears many other registries also
preferred co.xx to com.xx.
4. At that time, JANET used uk.ac.oxford.law.host1 and the US used
. Email clients had to figure out the endianness of
addresses by inspection. Thus, we *suggested* that no host ever use
the ISO 2 letter country code or any of the three letter TLDs. That
way we would not get hopelessly confused by fr.ac.uk (is that in
France or the Great Britain?)
As the net has evolved, the deep structure in the DNS is rarely used.
Some countries have allowed organisation.tld rather than
organisation.2ld.tld; .com has become the tld of choice, and very
rarely do we see names like
So maybe it's time to drop tlds in .nz, but until then, fwiw, I
oppose .bank.nz as being unnecessary---and support .geek.nz :-)
Actually, I still like the structured approach, and prefer a limited
number of sane 2lds, but maybe I'm kicking against the pricks here.
Michael Newbery IP Architect TelstraClear Limited
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