OK.. I probably should have explained things a little more about what I am looking for.
Ok... see what I said about what we do in .au... but while we only have really 2 main
DSLAM providers here in .au who a) wholesale, b) have extensive coverage in Exchanges...
there are also Tier 2 and Tier3 aggregators.
Tier 1 - Telstra, Optus
Tier 1.5 - Agile (Internode), iiNet, Nextep, Powertel/AAPT and some others... all with
some coverage filled in with one of the Tier 1's (or not)
Tier 2 - Example would be iSeek... who say take Optus, PowerTel/iiNet and perhaps others
and then feed ISP's who can't afford to go direct to the Tier 1's... which
often have massive Sales requirements and other stuff. Still have some requirements for
Tier 3 - Example Platform Networks - Take a feed of DSL from a Tier 2, perhaps several
Tier 2's, maybe some direct carrier access like Telstra and aggregate it all together
and pass those onto small ISP's who by in the dozens, perhaps hundreds... but not
thousands of tails. They often take different technologies from multiple Tier 2's and
deliver everything as L2TP over Ethernet.
Tier 4 - Baby ISP, Integrator sick of giving all the business direct to the Tier 1's,
corporate networks with large number of sites who want to build their own network.
The higher the tier (1) is the cheapest for tails, but have big bonds, big sales targets,
expensive handoff requirements (ATM sometimes, etc), and often also require regional
handoff which you then aggregate yourself back to wherever.
So.. What I am looking for is a Tier 2 or 3 provider.. who already takes a national
handoff of DSL, brings it back to Auckland, who I can interconnect with and who can
register a realm which can LT2P services over to my router. I don't care if the Tier
2/3 retails... but I would like a little better deal and flexibility than their retail
products. I don't want transit from them (unless I ask for it) - as in, it
shouldn't be bundled and/or a requirement.
Dealing directly with Telecom... no thanks.. even a Tier 2 would probably be pointless.
I suppose it is pointless asking if one of the carriers in NZ is L2TP'ing HSDPA?
Skeeve Stevens, CEO
eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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From: Nathan Ward [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nznog] DSL Wholesale in NZ
On 1/12/2008, at 9:56 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Here in Australia getting a handoff from a wholesale ISP who
will deliver DSL tails as L2TP is an easy thing. Taking them as
L2TP allows you to do lots of cool things like put the services in
MPLS VRF's and so on.
I need to know if this is possible in NZ. What I am looking
for is a provider that can deliver national coverage, and can
provide a handoff back in Auckland. We're only talking a small
number of tails... i.e. <100 initially as this is for a private
corporate network. The handoff would be in the SkyTower then at
which point I will get an international VLAN back to Sydney to plug
them into the corporate network over here. There may or may not be
the requirement for some transit in NZ... I haven't decided exactly
how I am doing some parts of the solution yet... but for now we can
assume that there will be none - but we may do peering.
I am sure there are many hosted/managed options, but I'd
prefer to take handoff of the services into my own router... Cisco
2821/3845 or something and then take care of everything ourselves.
Any thoughts please let me know.
Yep, talk to Telecom, they do this to provide ADSL service to most NZ
Few NZ ISPs have their own DSLAMs.
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