RE: [wlug] Overlapping usage nonsense
by Gund Wehsling
Hi
I agree, NAT is supposed to be almost impossible to detect.
Change your dial-in password now and see what happens next billing cycle? Perhaps your mate who you helped to setup his computer will ring you later this week to tell you the Internet connection you helped him with has stopped working?
Of course I have done that before.
Gund
-----Original Message-----
From: James Clark [mailto:jamesc@bofh.co.nz]
Sent: Fri 19/11/2004 12:04
To: Waikato Linux Users Group
Cc:
Subject: Re: [wlug] Overlapping usage nonsense
On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 11:17:58AM +1300, Jared Wigmore wrote:
> Having got a network and Internet connection sharing
> set up (thanks Bruce), Xtra is now charging my family
> for "overlapping usage" via my Linux computer. (The
> Internet connection is on the family computer, with
> Windows XP professional.)
Overlapping usage:
http://www.xtra.co.nz/help/0,,6155-1452314,00.html
(if the link works)
I suspect someone is dialling up with your account simultaniously,
not because your NAT-ing...
James.
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Re: [wlug] Fedora (the one we support) revisited
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz
Hi All,
I did make sure that I had a good repo and plenty of
mirrors then "yum update"
There were 54 items to d/load. at the 11th file, some three
hours later (at 47k), a thing called "gzip" failed to down
load so it tried mirror after mirror very slowly. Failing on
each occasion. I think it was at the fourteenth unsuccessful
mirror attempt that I began cutting 25mm lengths off the
modem cord. The mirror sites then went by much more quickly
as they were unable to connect. The success in this is that
there were TONNES of mirrors to try if only I had waited a
couple more days things may have been OK and I could have
got on with updating yum and possibly installing mplayer.
I am finding Fedora to be bad for my self esteem and
I note with horror that I have forced myself into the
position of the official "idiot question asker". To this end
I am unsubscribing from the mailing list so as not to
broadcast my ineptitude to all and sundry when doing fubars
in the future.
The distro that has given me the least grief is
"Mandrake"> (yep. Windows user) If any one is willing to
burn me a good copy of the latest issue I would be happy if
they would contact me off list.
Many thanks to all the list members.
Regards John.
> A bad checksum probably means the file corrupted while you
> were downloading it. Possible reasons for this are:
>
> 1) a web proxy in your path (transparent or otherwise) has
> an incomplete copy cached
> 2) the file changed while you were downloading it
> 3) yum didn't actually finish downloading the file
> 4) the copy on the server is incomplete or corrupt.
>
> To fix this, try running 'yum update' then 'yum install
> mplayer' when the update finishes. If that doesn't work,
> try adding more yum mirrors to your mirror list - I
> notice that your output contained comments regarding 'No
> more mirrors to try' etc.
>
>
> As to your second question - it carried on because only
> one part of the download failed, the others are all
> intact.
>
> > Thought I was doing fairly good, Wgot the public
> key. >Copied freshrpms, fixed a parsing error but now got
> a >checksum problem.
> >I have saved the whole drama if anyone has time to help I
> >would apreciatte it
> >Terminal entries follow:
> >
> >[root@localhost john]# yum install mplayer
> >
> ..
>
> >http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/freshrpms/RP
> MS/mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm: >[Errno
> -1] Package does not match checksum >freshrpms: [Errno
> 256] No more mirrors to try. >[root@localhost john]#
> >
> >
> >Also why go through the whole download if the thing fails
> >the checksum*
> >Regards John
> >
> >
>
15 years, 6 months
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15 years, 6 months
Re: [wlug] Fedora (the one we support) revisited
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz
Many thanks,
Will try your suggestions.
Regards John
----- Original Message Follows -----
>
> A bad checksum probably means the file corrupted while you
> were downloading it. Possible reasons for this are:
>
> 1) a web proxy in your path (transparent or otherwise) has
> an incomplete copy cached
> 2) the file changed while you were downloading it
> 3) yum didn't actually finish downloading the file
> 4) the copy on the server is incomplete or corrupt.
>
> To fix this, try running 'yum update' then 'yum install
> mplayer' when the update finishes. If that doesn't work,
> try adding more yum mirrors to your mirror list - I
> notice that your output contained comments regarding 'No
> more mirrors to try' etc.
>
>
> As to your second question - it carried on because only
> one part of the download failed, the others are all
> intact.
>
> > Thought I was doing fairly good, Wgot the public
> key. >Copied freshrpms, fixed a parsing error but now got
> a >checksum problem.
> >I have saved the whole drama if anyone has time to help I
> >would apreciatte it
> >Terminal entries follow:
> >
> >[root@localhost john]# yum install mplayer
> >
> ..
>
> >http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/freshrpms/RP
> MS/mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm: >[Errno
> -1] Package does not match checksum >freshrpms: [Errno
> 256] No more mirrors to try. >[root@localhost john]#
> >
> >
> >Also why go through the whole download if the thing fails
> >the checksum*
> >Regards John
> >
> >
>
15 years, 6 months
Fedora (the one we support) revisited
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz
Hi All.
Thought I was doing fairly good, Wgot the public key.
Copied freshrpms, fixed a parsing error but now got a
checksum problem.
I have saved the whole drama if anyone has time to help I
would apreciatte it
Terminal entries follow:
[john@localhost ~]$ su
Password:
[root@localhost john]# wget
http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt
--18:58:33-- http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt
=> `RPM-GPG-KEY.txt'
Resolving freshrpms.net... 66.40.9.130
Connecting to freshrpms.net[66.40.9.130]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1,631 [text/plain]
100%[====================================>] 1,631
--.--K/s
18:58:35 (15.55 MB/s) - `RPM-GPG-KEY.txt' saved
[1,631/1,631]
[root@localhost john]# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt
[root@localhost john]# /etc/yum.conf
bash: /etc/yum.conf: Permission denied *typo!!!
[root@localhost john]# nano -w /etc/yum.conf
[root@localhost john]# yum install mplayer
Config Error: File contains parsing errors:
file:///etc/yum.conf
[line 18]: 's/\n'
[root@localhost john]# yum install mplayer
Config Error: File contains parsing errors:
file:///etc/yum.conf
[line 18]: 's/\n'
[root@localhost john]# nano -w /etc/yum.conf *edited /s in
line 18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[root@localhost john]# yum install mplayer
Setting up Install Process
Setting up Repo: freshrpms
repomd.xml 100% |=========================|
843 B 00:00
Setting up Repo: base
repomd.xml 100% |=========================|
1.1 kB 00:00
Setting up Repo: updates-released
repomd.xml 100% |=========================|
951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================|
132 kB 00:38
MD Read :
################################################## 452/452
freshrpms :
################################################## 452/452
base :
################################################## 2622/2622
updates-re:
################################################## 255/255
Resolving Dependencies
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages.
Please wait.
---> Downloading header for mplayer to pack into transaction
set.
mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025 100% |=========================|
48 kB 00:06
---> Package mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr set
to be installed
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: libfaad.so.0 for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libpostproc=
1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libxvidcore.so.4 for package:
mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libaa.so.1 for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: mplayer-fonts for package:
mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libdvdread.so.3 for package:
mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libxmms.so.1 for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: liblzo.so.1 for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libmp3lame.so.0 for package:
mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libmad.so.0 for package: mplayer
--> Processing Dependency: libpostproc.so.0 for package:
mplayer
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages.
Please wait.
---> Downloading header for faad2 to pack into transaction
set.
faad2-2.0-2.20040923.1.fc 100% |=========================|
4.6 kB 00:00
---> Package faad2.i386 0:2.0-2.20040923.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for libpostproc to pack into
transaction set.
libpostproc-1.0-0.12.2004 100% |=========================|
9.5 kB 00:01
---> Package libpostproc.i386 0:1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr
set to be installed
---> Downloading header for xvidcore to pack into
transaction set.
xvidcore-1.0.2-2.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
4.5 kB 00:00
---> Package xvidcore.i386 0:1.0.2-2.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for aalib to pack into transaction
set.
aalib-1.4.0-5.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
6.1 kB 00:01
---> Package aalib.i386 0:1.4.0-5.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for mplayer-fonts to pack into
transaction set.
mplayer-fonts-1.1-2.fr.no 100% |=========================|
14 kB 00:01
---> Package mplayer-fonts.noarch 0:1.1-2.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for libdvdread to pack into
transaction set.
libdvdread-0.9.4-5.1.fc3. 100% |=========================|
4.6 kB 00:00
---> Package libdvdread.i386 0:0.9.4-5.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for xmms to pack into transaction
set.
xmms-1.2.10-9.1.1.fc3.fr. 100% |=========================|
25 kB 00:03
---> Package xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-9.1.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for lzo to pack into transaction
set.
lzo-1.08-3.1.fc3.fr.i386. 100% |=========================|
4.3 kB 00:00
---> Package lzo.i386 0:1.08-3.1.fc3.fr set to be installed
---> Downloading header for lame to pack into transaction
set.
lame-3.96.1-2.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
7.6 kB 00:01
---> Package lame.i386 0:3.96.1-2.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
---> Downloading header for libmad to pack into transaction
set.
libmad-0.15.1b-3.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
4.2 kB 00:00
---> Package libmad.i386 0:0.15.1b-3.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: libdvdcss>= 1.2.5 for package:
libdvdread
--> Restarting Dependency Resolution with new changes.
--> Populating transaction set with selected packages.
Please wait.
---> Downloading header for libdvdcss to pack into
transaction set.
libdvdcss-1.2.8-4.1.fc3.f 100% |=========================|
4.5 kB 00:00
---> Package libdvdcss.i386 0:1.2.8-4.1.fc3.fr set to be
installed
--> Running transaction check
Dependencies Resolved
Transaction Listing:
Install: mplayer.i386 0:1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr
Performing the following to resolve dependencies:
Install: aalib.i386 0:1.4.0-5.1.fc3.fr
Install: faad2.i386 0:2.0-2.20040923.1.fc3.fr
Install: lame.i386 0:3.96.1-2.1.fc3.fr
Install: libdvdcss.i386 0:1.2.8-4.1.fc3.fr
Install: libdvdread.i386 0:0.9.4-5.1.fc3.fr
Install: libmad.i386 0:0.15.1b-3.1.fc3.fr
Install: libpostproc.i386 0:1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr
Install: lzo.i386 0:1.08-3.1.fc3.fr
Install: mplayer-fonts.noarch 0:1.1-2.fr
Install: xmms.i386 1:1.2.10-9.1.1.fc3.fr
Install: xvidcore.i386 0:1.0.2-2.1.fc3.fr
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025 100% |=========================|
899 kB 05:39
http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/freshrpms/RPMS/mplayer-1.0-0...:
[Errno -1] Package does not match checksum
*Why is this???????????????????????????????????????????
Trying other mirror.
faad2-2.0-2.20040923.1.fc 100% |=========================|
201 kB 01:25
libpostproc-1.0-0.12.2004 100% |=========================|
43 kB 00:11
xvidcore-1.0.2-2.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
238 kB 01:12
aalib-1.4.0-5.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
95 kB 00:27
mplayer-fonts-1.1-2.fr.no 100% |=========================|
1.0 MB 04:56
libdvdread-0.9.4-5.1.fc3. 100% |=========================|
55 kB 00:15
xmms-1.2.10-9.1.1.fc3.fr. 100% |=========================|
1.9 MB 09:38
lzo-1.08-3.1.fc3.fr.i386. 100% |=========================|
55 kB 00:15
lame-3.96.1-2.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
488 kB 02:23
libmad-0.15.1b-3.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
79 kB 00:23
libdvdcss-1.2.8-4.1.fc3.f 100% |=========================|
34 kB 00:09
Error Downloading Packages:
mplayer - 1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386: failure:
RPMS/mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm from
freshrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
[root@localhost john]#
Also why go through the whole download if the thing fails
the checksum*
Regards John
15 years, 6 months
Re: [wlug] Fedora (the one we support) revisited
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz
Hi again,
I have not managed to find an answer to this as yet, managed
to get google down to six or so possibles. None of those
seemed to match my problem. Another thread suggests that the
install was bad but I do not think so.
I will re-read the Fedora wiki in case I missed it the first
few times *sigh*
Regards John.
<edited terminal display below>
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
> Downloading Packages:
> mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025 100% |=========================|
> 899 kB 05:39
>
http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/3/i386/freshrpms/RPMS/mplayer-1.0-0...:
> [Errno -1] Package does not match checksum
> <*Why is this???????????????????????????????????????????>
> Trying other mirror.
> faad2-2.0-2.20040923.1.fc 100% |=========================|
> 201 kB 01:25
> libpostproc-1.0-0.12.2004 100% |=========================|
> 43 kB 00:11
> xvidcore-1.0.2-2.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
> 238 kB 01:12
> aalib-1.4.0-5.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
> 95 kB 00:27
> mplayer-fonts-1.1-2.fr.no 100% |=========================|
> 1.0 MB 04:56
> libdvdread-0.9.4-5.1.fc3. 100% |=========================|
> 55 kB 00:15
> xmms-1.2.10-9.1.1.fc3.fr. 100% |=========================|
> 1.9 MB 09:38
> lzo-1.08-3.1.fc3.fr.i386. 100% |=========================|
> 55 kB 00:15
> lame-3.96.1-2.1.fc3.fr.i3 100% |=========================|
> 488 kB 02:23
> libmad-0.15.1b-3.1.fc3.fr 100% |=========================|
> 79 kB 00:23
> libdvdcss-1.2.8-4.1.fc3.f 100% |=========================|
> 34 kB 00:09
> Error Downloading Packages:
> mplayer - 1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386: failure:
> RPMS/mplayer-1.0-0.12.20041025.1.fc3.fr.i386.rpm from
> freshrpms: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
> [root@localhost john]#
>
Also why go through the whole download if the thing fails
the checksum*
Regards John
>
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Buying Linux Books
by Gun Caundle
For what it is worth (and in this case quite a bit)
I had a look at one our library books "How Linux Works" and thought that
I would need to buy it and use for reference. John Mc said buying
from O'Reilly's, members get a 20% discount. I checked Dymocks Auckand
and they could get me one for $94.95 and would take 6-8 weeks to arrive
from the US.
So I ordered it from O'Reilly's website for $US30.36 (including
discount) The only shipping option was DHL (courier) and it was not
until I had given my credit card details and the invoice was created
that I could see the shipping charge. $US31.60.
Then I checked on Amazon (never a good move to check other prices after
the tranaction has taken place). Below are the comparisons.
Dymocks Auck
$NZ94.95 + postage to me
O'Reilly's
$US30.36 book
$US31.60 shipping (Supposedly 2 days but it hasn't arrived after 4 days)
$NZ83.00 total
Amazon
$US25.05 Book
$US11.98 Shipping (1-2 vweeks)
$NZ37.03 Total
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