Just another note to say thanks to Nathan Ward for coming down from Auckland on Monday and presenting a meeting on Voice over IP.
Nathan covered VoIP from several angles; protocols, software (client and server), and usage, both from an end-to-end perspective and as part of a toll bypass system (where you call from a normal telephone to another one, and get your call shunted onto an IP network along the way.) Thanks also to Gerwin and Computer Upgrades 2000 for providing an excellent venue.
Over the next month we will be presenting tutorials to second year University students who will be using Linux as part of their course. The next month's meeting is going to be an introduction meeting for people who want to install Linux, so keep the date free (Monday 22 March) - the meeting will almost certainly be on the University campus but an exact location will be announced soon.
We want to try and attract everyone that has felt that meetings have been a bit over their heads, people who have lurked on the list or on the Wiki and want to install Linux for the first time, want a run down on the various distros, pros and cons etc.
If there are new users floating around on the list, please let us know what you'd like to see at this meeting - it's for you. The current plan is to run a Linux install live on a projector while the presentation runs so that everyone can see exactly how easy it is.
Craig
At 17:35 14/02/2004, you wrote:
> > > I agree, I think you might need a "cross over" component that explains
> > > how to migrate your existing windows into Linux.
> >
> > And compatibility -
> > "I can't use Linux as I need to be able to read and write Microsoft Office
> > documents".
> > "OF course I won't be able to play WAV or mp3 files on linux will I?".
> > "I need to be able to open Windoes images (by this they usually mean
> > GIF or JPEG) so linux is no use to me".
> > "Linux is Unix isn't it? I couldn't function without my mouse and a
> > window". (Hence my worries about the first few seminars.)
>
>While we may need to show people answers to these questions to make Linux
>more attractive, we are not trying to convert these people. They are going
>to use Linux, they have to and have no choice if they are to complete
>their courses. What we are aiming for primarily with these training is to
>help the students use Linux more effectivly for their course requirements
>(hence the focus on bash, editors etc). Hopefully if we do a good job of
>that we will get students interested in Linux in general. We will make
>sure that they realise that WLUG is there for them when/if they want to
>make the transition to Linux on machines at home. Teaching them some
>things like Linux gaming, wine and even gimp and mp3 players isn't going
>to be achieving our goal of helping them with their course related
>requirements.
I hate to flog the dead horse, but if you make it more attractive for them
to use they will be better off then just a "you need to do it" situation.
If they get a feeling for what they would normally do in a familiar
environment it will be a win win at the end of the day.
After all, no one likes too leave their comfort zone, and if they must it
would be better for them to do so in a manor that would be easy for them to
understand, and if that means exposing them too the side of linux that is
not part of the course needs, will it really hurt?
One problem I encounter with linux is the "server" impression of linux. Not
many people really seem to be aware that linux can be a desktop platform,
and as a result fun to use. If you can impose this on the students it would
be a good start, in my opinion.
Also if the students are using it at home then it will be better for them
in a work situation as well.
>On the other hand, we have talked about the March WLUG presentation being
>an intoductory presentation, perhaps going through installing a distro,
>setting it up and showing off solutions to the common issues you have
>discussed. Perhaps if we have time and enough interest / help we may
>follow this up with an installfest.
I think an installfest is long over due... be sure to sing out for help....
>Jamie
>
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The WLUG meeting is this evening
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Please notice the location for this meeting is one we haven't used before - Computer Upgrades 2000 Ltd, in the court behind McDonalds Te Rapa (on Pukete Rd). There's plenty of signage, and you'll see people you know floating around.
The topic for this meeting is [VoIP] (Voice Over [IP|IPv4])
Our guest speaker is NathanWard.
PerryLorier has asked me to put in some kind of list of stuff I'll cover in here, so here goes:
* Servers
* Asterisk
* OpenH323 / GNUGK / Open Gatekeeper
* 'blackbox' / hardware
* Protocols:
* [SIP]
* [H.323]
* MGCP
* Skinny
* Endpoints
* Hardware Phones
* 'Soft Phones'
* People
* What [WLUG] people have been doing so far
* What [WLUG] people can do
* Other people doing [VoIP]
* What I am doing with [VoIP]
* Demos (or, things I'd like to demo...)
* [VoIP] -> [PSTN] call
* [PSTN] -> [VoIP] call
* [VoIP] -> [VoIP] call
* [PSTN] -> [PSTN] (over [VoIP])
* Voicemail stuff
* [IVR]s
* VoIP applications
* Carrier level:
* Toll Bypass
* Calling card
* Virtual [PABX]/Voicemail/[IVR] networks
* Business level:
* Toll 'Hopoff'
* [PABX]/[IVR]/Voicemail
* Personal Level
* Long distance calling
* Amusing [IVR]s
(Note - it won't be in this order, and contents will definately change, etc.)
Hi everyone,
Just a note to say that the minutes of our last WLUG committee meeting are
up on the Wiki at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2004-02-18, for any
interested parties.
Things we're doing at the moment:
- Setting up (home made) software for the WLUG library
- Organising Unix tutorials for 2nd year computer science students at UoW
(see http://www.wlug.org.nz/UnixTutorials for details)
- Working on getting distibutions/Linux books available from the Hamilton
Public Library
- Organising a Linux installfest for after the next meeting (we'll discuss
this when plans are arranged)
- Applying for some funding from the WEL Energy Trust
Thanks,
Craig
Hi
I am a newbie using RH 9 and working with the Red Hat Linux Bible by
Christopher Negus.
He uses a command 'lsmod' which I think is for listing modules.
However my version of RH9 doesn't appear to have this command. IE
> [root@LinuxBox /]# type lsmod
> bash: type: lsmod: not found
> .
Is there another command I could use instead?
Cheers
Gun Caundle
Hi,
O'Reilly (the book publisher) has generously offered to send us
some free technical manuals, although I think they are supposed to be
for review purposes.
If you are a paid up member of WLUG, and would like to see us acquire
a book of your choosing (and you are prepared to write up a small review
of it), visit http://www.wlug.org.nz/WantedBooks and edit the page.
(There is a link to O'Reilly's online catalog... the page linked to is
about 400 kB).
John McPherson
Coming up this Wednesday, a WLUG committee meeting. (Seems the 'bot hasn't
figured that out yet!)
If you'd like anything on the agenda, you will find it at
http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2004-02-18 - please e-mail me with
anything you'd like discussed, as usual.
Craig
WLUG Secretariat
Hi,
In conjunction with the CS Department at Waikato University WLUG is
organising a series of seminars aimed at introducing first and second
year students to Linux and OSS in general. We are currently in the
process of planning these seminars and are looking for comments on what
to include and what to leave out.
The seminars will run in weeks 2 and 3 of semester A for 3 nights each
week. Each seminar will be around 1.5hrs long. Below is a brief outline
of what we are currently planning on covering in each seminar. If you
have comments or suggestions please let us know.
Seminar 1: (Tue 9th Mar) - Introduction to Linux / OSS
- What is OSS
- What is Linux
- What is GNU
- Why use Linux
- History of Linux
- About the Linux Distributions
Seminar 2: (Wed 10th Mar) - Bash
- A general introduction to bash, what it is, how to use it and tips
for performing common tasks.
Seminar 3: (Thu 11th Mar) - Emacs
- A general introduction to emacs, what it is, how to use it and
tips for performing common tasks.
Seminar 4: (Tue 16th Mar) - Processes
- An introduction to process control in unix systems. We will cover
how to start, stop, suspend and kill processes.
Seminar 5: (Wed 17th Mar) - Applications
- An introduction to useful OSS applications that can be used under
linux. This will focus on what is installed in the TSG
labs and will probably cover (pending confirmation)
- ssh / scp
- Mozilla
- OpenOffice
Seminar 6: (Thu 18th Mar) - Summary / Q&A
- A summary of how to put everything that has been taught together,
followed by a question and answer session.
The popular cheat sheet will be given out again and we are looking at
providing each attendee with a copy of Knoppix.
Comments welcome :)
Regards
--
Matt Brown
Email: matt(a)mattb.net.nz
GSM : 021 611 544
The WLUG meeting is one week away
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The topic for this meeting is [VoIP] (Voice Over [IP|IPv4])
Guest Speaker: NathanWard
PerryLorier has asked me to put in some kind of list of stuff I'll cover in here, so here goes:
* Servers
* Asterisk
* OpenH323 / GNUGK / Open Gatekeeper
* 'blackbox' / hardware
* Protocols:
* [SIP]
* [H.323]
* MGCP
* Skinny
* Endpoints
* Hardware Phones
* 'Soft Phones'
* People
* What [WLUG] people have been doing so far
* What [WLUG] people can do
* Other people doing [VoIP]
* What I am doing with [VoIP]
* Demos (or, things I'd like to demo...)
* [VoIP] -> [PSTN] call
* [PSTN] -> [VoIP] call
* [VoIP] -> [VoIP] call
* [PSTN] -> [PSTN] (over [VoIP])
* Voicemail stuff
* [IVR]s
* VoIP applications
* Carrier level:
* Toll Bypass
* Calling card
* Virtual [PABX]/Voicemail/[IVR] networks
* Business level:
* Toll 'Hopoff'
* [PABX]/[IVR]/Voicemail
* Personal Level
* Long distance calling
* Amusing [IVR]s
