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We have a new site in Taupo that is connected to TelstraClear Private IP
via a Cisco 805 Router on frame relay. As I am going on holiday
tomorrow I am unable to go onsite and figure out why the connection is
not coming up when the router is as far as I can remember configured
Is anyone on this list in Taupo and able to check it out for me, and if
so reply off list with your hourly rate.
National IT Manager
Turbo Investments Group.
DHBs to test open source alternative to Windows and Office
Boards band together to reduce their software licensing costs
Stephen Bell, Wellington
New Zealand's District Health Boards plan a trial of open source desktop
software in an effort to reduce the licensing fees they pay to Microsoft
— more than $20 million over three years, according to one estimate.
Microsoft licences are a major element of DHBs’ software costs, says
Phil Brimacombe, CIO of Waitemata and Counties Manukau DHBs and
healthAlliance, the shared services organisation owned by the two boards.
While there are some “power users” likely to need the full capabilities
of Microsoft Office and related applications, users with less elaborate
IT demands may be able to use OpenOffice.org and other open source
software at much-reduced cost, Brimacombe says.
At a quarterly meeting of DHB CIOs in February, a joint three-part plan
to reduce software costs was adopted.
First, the DHBs will pilot an open source desktop environment, being put
together by Steve Rayner, CIO of Wanganui DHB, to assess how many users
it will serve adequately. Rayner plans to support two categories of
user: "power users" with Microsoft desktop software, and "regular
clinical users" with Novell Enterprise Desktop, OpenOffice.org and
GroupWise running on Suse Linux.
The pilot will seek to establish how many users there are with basic
needs and whether it is possible to meet them with an entirely
non-Microsoft environment, Brimacombe says.
“The majority of users don’t use Access databases, for example; they
wouldn’t use PowerPoint; they’re not advanced users of Excel and they
probably only use about 20% of the functions of Word. They may manage
quite well with OpenOffice.”
There are also open source options for clinical database access clients,
“but we don’t know how practical those are”, he says.
Brimacombe expects one of the knotty problems will be DHBs’ extensive
use of Outlook and Exchange. They will have to find some practical email
alternative, he says.
Another initiative is to approach suppliers of health software to see if
they are willing to develop open source versions of their applications.
At least one major provider of clinical systems, Orion, has told the
board that it is looking seriously at supporting the open source Mozilla
Firefox browser with its its clinical portal, Concerto, as an
alternative to Internet Explorer, Brimacombe says. Laboratory software
developer Sysmex has also indicated a willingness to explore open source
solutions, he says.
The third part of the DHBs' plan is to push for stronger representation
on the public sector committee negotiating the details of G2006, the
next iteration of the New Zealand Government’s bulk licensing agreement
Steve Mayo-Smith, CIO of Auckland DHB, will be the DHB CIO
representative on the public sector negotiation group. He says DHBs will
collectively have spent over $20 million on Microsoft licences during
the three year of the previous agreement, G2003.
“In particular the DHBs with a large user population end up with little
choice within the G2003 agreement, and feel captured by the structure of
that agreement into paying the highest charges, often for products that
are not widely needed,” Mayo-Smith says. “The potential cost
efficiencies of open source are also attractive to smaller DHBs who do
not have the resources of the larger DHBs.”
“We’re not expecting any stunning short-term breakthrough,” says
Brimacombe, but the joint initiative, alongside individual DHB plans in
the open source direction, could go some way to reducing Microsoft
expenditure, “which is a big number for the taxpayer”.
The push to reduce licensing costs has been building for many months,
Brimacombe says; one catalyst came in mid-2004, when Dr Ross Boswell,
clinical director of information systems for Counties Manukau and an
open source enthusiast, addressed the quarterly CIO meeting. Discussion
since then has built up to the point of a formal agreement among the boards.
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Has anyone upgraded a RHEL 2.1 system to RHEL3 via up2date before? If
so any pot holes I should be watchful for?
I'm just getting a little sick of how out of date this RHEL2.1 box I
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We're looking at sourcing some second hand (ex lease) PCs to sell at the
installfest. While what we have on the day depends on what the supplier has
in stock, current prices put a Pentium 3 733 machine with 256mb RAM and 10GB
of HDD (plus CD-ROM/sound/network etc) at around $250. We will of course
look forward to taking these machines and helping you set Linux up on them.
I would like to get an indication of how many people might be interested in
taking up an offer like this, so we have an idea of how many PCs to have on
hand during the day.
A mention of antivirus on Linux reminded me to take another look at the
Avast web site.
They had a beta version a year or two ago. It seems to have made the
product line up.
I haven't used the Linux version yet, but the Windows version works
well, and is available free for home use. You have to register but they
don't spam you! I have used it for a few years and put other people on
to it. You can also try there beta programs and report back on them.
The only way to fight back against these software patent advocates is to
think up idea's, get together with friends and supporters and patent all
your idea's. That way, when these multinational rat-bags go to patent
an idea - you've already done it.
Its cheaper to patent things than it is to object to the patents. So
why not. Get a good patent lawyer and hoe into it.