I was reading the cnet article on the need for a mail client to push
forward DESKTOP LINUX
*E-mail will be the most significant factor governing the uptake of
Linux on the desktop, according to a new study. *
The Desktop Linux Client Survey 2005, released this week by the Open
Source Development Labs, found that the lack of a powerful e-mail
application could hinder the adoption of Linux on the desktop.
Full story here:
What I wondered was what does an enterprise e-mail client do that's
different from my thunderbird. Is it just the calender? is it notes. I
have tried, and hated outlook, probably as I use just e-mail and dont
like the complexity of all the other things, but what would happen in an
If you understand this article, can you explain what the novell and
mozilla offerings will mean, and will this be the outlook killer. What
does outlook do that so vital?
Is this another case of its not the same, or are we really missing out
any enterprise experince that can help a tech like me understand this ?
Is there a really good app for this, could something be done to solve
this. After all e-mail is the number 1 app for the net, search is 2 and
then web surfing. 2 and 3 are fine, are we missing the boat on 1?
I thinks its sufficiently linux related.
do we have the Guru's in the lug that could solve this?
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Thanks to both Shane and Michael for their replies.
Shane, like you, I doubted that rpm would be found in DSL. However, to
my surprise, the question in DSL, "whereis rpm", led to the answer,
"/usr/bin/rpm". It seems then that it wasn't any absence of rpm which
caused the DSL version of alien not to work for me as I'd hoped.
Michael, my "real" distribution, if I can put it that way, is Fedora
Core 3. Alien's not included in it. I did a search and ultimately found
alien-8.21-1.noarch.rpm. When I tested an installation of it, I got on
the usual dependency roundabout. The last message I got when I tested an
installation of alien plus four additional perl-type rpms was "perl
<1:5.8.0 conflicts with perl-base-184.108.40.206.i386". Since the latter file
was one of those rpms whose installation I was testing, I took that to
be a complaint that the version of perl I already had installed was less
than 1:5.8.0. When I checked which version of perl I had installed, I
was told it was perl-5.8.5-24.FC3.i386.rpm. At that stage, I threw up my
hands, it being all beyond me.
As to your kind offer to convert the two rpms for me, one of them is
only 93.78 Kbytes in size, but the other is 3.61 Mbytes, a size too
large to be passed back and forth by email.
In spite of all the above, I don't want to give up trying to get the
files converted and installed. It seems a shame if the printer will run
in many other distributions, but not in DSL. So if you have (or anyone
else has) any further ideas, I'd be very happy to try to apply them.
For the son of friends who live a long way away, I converted an old
laptop to run under Damn Small Linux, so that the son would no longer
have to use the family computer.
The friends have a Lexmark X1150 PrintTrio and they've asked whether I
could get that gadget working with the old laptop, at least as a printer.
I've found that many people have been able to get that gadget running as
a printer under various distributions, including Debian and Ubuntu.
In the case of the latter two distributions, people have downloaded a
compressed file from Lexmark said by it to be intended for RedHat Linux
9.0, extracted from it two .rpm files, converted those two .rpm files
into .deb files using alien and then installed the two .deb files. After
that, they've been able to print with CUPS.
Using a second old laptop which I also set up to run under DSL, I've
been trying to duplicate the process just mentioned, with a view to
giving instructions to my friends to follow on the laptop which they have.
I've got as far as extracting the two .rpm files, but am stuck at the
conversion to .deb stage.
DSL has a version of alien available, but I haven't been successful at
using it to convert the two .rpm files into .deb files.
The persons who've given instructions about this exercise on the Web
seem not to have been troubled very much about which version of their
own distribution they were using, but simply reported success in
installing the .deb files they'd created.
If I could get the two .rpm files converted into .deb files via alien by
someone running Debian or Ubuntu, is there any prospect that I could
then take those files and install them successfully on my DSL computer?
Or is it necessary that the conversion take place on the computer on
which the files are intended to be installed?
If the latter (which is my own guess), does anyone have any suggestion
as to how I could proceed otherwise? For instance, would it be possible
to convert the .rpm files to source files and then install the source
files on the DSL computer?
I'd welcome any advice.
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