Eric is right, by last night I'd given up, didn't see the point. You weren't listening. I presented my current peeves against systemd and barely even got an acknowledgment they are a problem, big or small.

But by your own standard <http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Troll>, fishing me with questions about my personal experience *was* the trolling. Of course I ignored those "questions" as they weren't material to the facts I posted. I wasn't fishing you at all, I presented facts. My personal working experience with Linux is immaterial to the facts in the bug reports and news articles about systemd.

What set of experience and credentials would have acceptable to you? You already had your big WLUG meeting and determined for all time in one evening that systemd is beyond reproach and no further argumentation on it will ever be accepted. You don't care about the bugs and articles that have come up, or that Linus Torvalds himself has said he can't trust "init" to do the sane thing anymore. If the founder of the Kernel isn't good enough for you to at least admit there could be a problem, I'm not going to change your mind.

On 07/27/2017 09:52 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 07:50:09 +1200, Eric Light wrote:

People with differing options to you are not
necessarily trolls ...
There is a certain style of ... “debate” (to put it broadly)
<http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Troll>. Particularly from
those with no experience of the subject--as I tried to determine from
repeated questioning.

Your consistently aggressive stance on the subject is unnecessary and
unbecoming. 
*Yawn* We’ve been through this nonsense before
<https://www.meetup.com/WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup/events/231330392/>. As
William pointed out, after yet more criticism online, nobody actually
turned up in person to point out why systemd was so “awful”.
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