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[wlug] Problems with 2.6.11 on FC3

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Daniel Lawson daniel@m...
Sun May 29 11:57:56 NZST 2005

>In fact I'm going to launch into a Linux/USB related rant.  USB,
>particularly USB Storage, support in Linux has always been extremely
>crap.  I've never really found it to be reliable.  It might not be
>Linux's "fault".  It might be crappy cheap Taiwanese hardware that is
>the problem but Windows seems to handle this cheap hardware much better
>than Linux does.

I've had the opposite experience. My first use of USB mass storage and 
linux was with RH 7.3 and an external USB cdwriter which worked cleanly 
on a brand new install of RH 7.3. Zero problems.

>Currently I'm having the vast majority of my problems with my USB2
>external HDD.  It is based on a Prolific Technology USB ATAPI-6 Bridge

I currently own a New Motion 3.5" IDE-> USB2/firewire enclosure, and 
have had no problems with it under linux. I used to own an ICE enclosure 
of similar nature, but its power supply died, so I had it replaced. When 
the replacement died in the same fashion, I asked for a refund and 
changed brands.

I also used firewire mass storage under linux, and found it to be very 
good with both devices I used. I didn't do a decent throughput 
comparison between USB2 and Firewire, but I suspect in both cases the 
single disk was the bottleneck.

The only problems I've ever had with USB mass storage was when I was 
running a 2.6 -mm branch kernel, which isn't exactly surprising.

One problem with removeable drives under linux is that mounting them in 
specific places becomes slightly tricky if you have more than one 
device. Under windows you just get 'next drive letter', which is 
normally ok. You need fstab entries to have things automounted under 
linux however, and if your insertion order changes, your device order 
changes, and so you mount things in the wrong place.

There's a couple of fixes for this: I make use of udev at home, and 
dynamically create device nodes named specifically for the device I'm 
plugging in. Eg, my 512 MB memory stick gets assigned /dev/memorystick, 
no matter when I plug it in. Likewise, my external harddisk gets 
assigned /dev/external

Another solution is the gnome-volume-manager, if you use a recent gnome. 
Not being at my home computer right now I'm a bit hazy on the specifics 
of this, but I beleive it rewrites part of fstab for you (yes, a 
potentially dangerous thing, but "safe enough" on a single user system). 
It'll then auto-mount devices for you.

>On the whole, fucking crap.  Perhaps one day we'll have decent USB
>storage support in Linux.  Until that day I'll just continue to bitch as
>I don't have the knowledge to fix it myself. *sigh*

It's possible it's some combination of your controller and the device 
itself. It's also possible that the Fedora Core kernels are tracking 
some changes from the -mm series, which has caused some instability in 
some specific areas.

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